and just like just said, i grew up five miles from newtown manor, about ten miles from saint, and it goes my grandmother's bones family was from some kind of a plantation. these are the plantations. we never heard this story at all. i went to catholic school. everybody i had priest and nuns, and then i came from a community that was very you know, they honored their black history. they on it. we never heard this story. i've never heard of it. never we never heard it from the we never heard it from the jesuits. would i guess, you know, never think about they wouldn't want you to know. we never heard about it. i was even wondering, you know, like my grandmother, i was one and it was so much trauma. people were hiding that they just didn't talk about it. and as the generations went on, it just went away because i'm from south america, i'm from all these areas where the plantations were. yeah, well, i feel like there's a book in you and you might consider. everybody keeps telling me, well, one you like that? did you have a specific question for rachel? you know, i just wanted to share th

my grandfather ud to tell me in his family as she grew up at newtown manor, but they were free people of color right. but he used to tell me that his grt grandmother would always say, you know, they sold some of us down the river. right. and i had no idea what that was until this. and i think he was talking about the good, too. so thanks for sharing that. yeah and can we have you join us hi i'm lorraine carter. my question is quick. i'd like know because you are journalists and you say because you're journalist, you're kind of director of your information as far as being a journalist, what i wanted to know, once you started this book, once this book was exposed, what kind of dialog did you with the diet, the diaries that the these. yeah, right. and the interaction you had because now you have this exposure and everyone, particularly in america, this is a hiddentory that is not being told. so you are telling the story and wanting to know as far as have i have looked back sure know what your posion okay and even though you say you're a journalist, what is your position to bring to bring