we need to reverse that trend, and it's time to do that at these thresholds of nextgen. it's an opportunity. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you for showing us the importance of defining and implementing proper policy, automation policies and procedures in order to maintain our safe operations. we have now time for questions. we have a microphone set up on both sides of the room if you want to make your way forward. we could ask our analysts some questions. to begin, let me just start out and i would just ask this general to the panel immediately, as we talked about, since most of us are in the pilots in rome, the pilots in the role with all the complexity is -- actually i will let one speaker. i will hold my question. >> i appear to be the professional questioner. the question is addressed to dr. woods and the panel in general. with regard to your discussion on brittleness and resilience in your model that you've created, what recommendations would you consider for brutal? what is a brittle operational practice wax this is the setup for the operational practice

cost to operate, cost to build going to nextgen. echostar wanted there's probably four more in there and the last 1i have to deal with all the time the pilot thing is really cool. so all those people got on their ipad holder installed, skip it. [laughter] we have infrastructure. we have 5,000 of the 77 in service, $30,000 estimated cost for training to do some public mouth, 2.25 billions of capital invested in to the flight crews around the world. at boeing the airline service is going to require 460,000 more pilots in the next 20 years. as far as i can figure out, that exceeds the capacity of the training system today. so unless you know of a killer application, the competitive rate for us right now is to get 787 out the door, triple seven out the door and the 737 max out the door and into our customers' hands. thanks. there is one other thing. this is the most game changing piece of equipment in the flight deck. the applications written for this and the ability to get what we call 121 integration published on this is going to radi

nextgen is another one of those atmospheric terms and my 33,000 ft definition of nextgen is it uses policiesd procedures to increase the density of air traffic and for the airports for that matter while preserving the same margin of safety for advancing it. that's what we are doing right now using what tom was talking about and that is data driven approach is doing risk-based analysis, that's looking at the things we can do right now to make sure that we can get more activity going into these aggregation of airports otherwise known as metroplex activity and do so in a way that we have more ridges if you will going to the pipeline without any sacrifice to safety. i come from alaska airlines which is a pioneer in our net based operations. we are able to take the front line expertise and bring it into policy levels where hopefully we are going to start executing on some of the things the faa has defined as a kind of keep portals as part of our nextgen road map. if we have another two hours i think we can jump into the unmanned aircraft systems and remotely piloted aircraft because there's an ex

the nextgen development is very, very critical to the future for us. some of us in the industry believe that solving many of the uas problems ultimately present a tremendous foundation for the overall development of nextgen. if you solve all of the issues relative to cents and avoid and automation and autonomy, all of these are very important elements in the entire speed team discussion, so we believe uas does possess a very critical piece to the overall nextgen package as it goes forward, so we will stay actively involved in that along with you of course. .. over the next few years, again once we get throughout the major hurdles, when looking at something that is going to contribute to the betterment of mankind. so again, you thank you for the opportunity to be here today and look forward to answering your questions. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, paul. it is nice to hear a discussion about a stepwise approach to the integration of any system. you certainly don't want overset bounds of technology and end up having to back out over safety issues.

if you try to label the program as part of being nextgen, part of a bill is fixing leaky roof to make sure the computer does not get wet, so the distinctions are political. this is a big, long-term investment and tried to get to this. it's difficult, because the faa is so big. we have to transition a lot of programs. one thing that's very hard is you run into a wall of political will. you say, great, i have the new program, i can consolidate all these people and jobs into a new location, and then congress as you are not moving my people out of my district. or you have the gall to say i'm going to move where an aircraft flies into new york and you have thousands of signatures on petitions saying you're not going to move an airplane over my house. so in as tough dimensions. some are technical and others political. host: greg is on a line from tucson, arizona. caller: i was wondering, as a small ga pilot, pretty innovative products could make flying safer for general aviation. but to get certified that products of the same caliber, it's much more expensive and it is really killing ga as

nextgen is truly a revolutionary change and moves us from if aation technology developed in the 1950sto that of the future. that's one program. there are manies could the technology developing in aircraft, the technology that supports how we manage our businesses, all of that is -- continues to evolv at a very rapid rate. second i want to promote a shared responsibility for safety oversight. both industry and government are responsible for ensuring that safety measures are fully met. it's not one of -- one party's responsibility or the others. we can't do it if we don't do it together, and we can't do it without the active participation of one another. third, we will face major changes within the faa and our work force in the coming years. a little more than 30% of faa employees will be eligible to retire starting in 2014. so, for us, succession planning remains a crucial aspect of our focus as an agency. and we must realize that we will begin to lose a vast amount of corporate knowledge in the coming years. to prepare for that, what we need to do is impt that knowledge to today's eme

faa reauthorization advances many of alpa's priorities including advancing nextgen initiatives.safety. making latzer attacks on an aircraft a federal crime. improving the safety of lithium battery shipments by air, strengthening voluntary i have a veryization safety protections. studying the feasibility of installing flight deck doors or alternatives on all cargo aircraft. and supporting critical aviation safety research. at the airline pilots' association we find that when we work together we achieve outstanding results and at alpa we are uniquely positioned to bring industry stakeholders together to keep focus on issues critically important to the aviation safety mission. using the air safety forum as a model we have held a series of highly successful con againsts, -- conferences each devoted to one specific issue. last october alpa and airlines for america cosponsored a conference on the growing problem of laser illumination of aircraft cockpits. in january we kicked off the new year by organizing and hosting a symposium on aviation safety action programs. the current challen

many who are involved in the implementation of nextgen initiatives are getting frustrated with the pace of progress. as that frustration grows it will be important for alpa to remain the honest broker in shooting the procedures implemented to increase capacity do not adversely affect safety or private workload to read in the area of pilot assistance, alpa is working to ensure all commercial airlines have professional standards programs. alpa has a participated in an faa aviation will meet in committee to address like crewmember professional development and conduct. we expect the public advisory and or rulemaking guidance for the programs to address these issues. this guidance will serve as a basis for fostering professional standards programs for both the u.s. and canadian airlines. in mission, alpa recently published a white paper to address the issue of pilot occupational safety and health and highlight the need for a dedicated division within both the faa and transport canada to focus on these issues. this white paper will be used as a basis to approach both agencies to ask for gover