>> getting the nextob. simple things like not getting fired. tavis: deeply profound.t wanted to get another job. >> i had no aspirations at that points. i just wanted to be successful at what i did and i come from the classical music world. and so i just wanted to be successful at writing for film and i loved writing for film and to me, it is like sort of building ship or building models. every film is different and you t to write with the director's blessing because you are working for somebody, which you can never forget, but you get to write almost everything you want and every film is different from each other. and that's how i sort of slowly climb the ladder. tavis: with your classical background, i think of you and jon williams who did wonderful scores down through the years. how has the game changed? you have been at this for a while. how has film scoring in this town changed? regard for r a change? the process of it changed? give me a quick lesson on how this has changed over the years? >> i have to be very careful when iance this question. the one thing that