the nfl makes so much money.y rice is a particular start -- or was a particular start -- in that sport. ,nd the nfl has a long history a pattern of ignoring domestic violence, of treating it lightly. and as far as we know, u.s. soccer does not have the same pattern. while hope solo should be held to the same standard as ray rice, it is disingenuous to compare the two situations because they are not quite the same. do you think ray rice will play again? right now, i did it is unimaginable that anyone would want to touch them, but fans have short memories. if you asked me about michael vick if you years ago, i would say that there would be no chance would be back in the league. host: jeffrey from springville, tennessee. good morning, jeff. caller: i have a question for her. why is the press so focused on lood out on the nfl -- goodel and the nfl and not on the das who dropped the charges and do not put these people in jail? too much focus is given to goodell and not the real issue. the bottom line is, if ray rice h

star the nfl has. on the cover of the magazines, he's on the cover of xbox, tho one expected this. ray rice was a pillar in the community of baltimore. we just don't know who these people are. >> but what about what charles barkley said? charles barkley pointing out something culturally in the south. saw it, lived it, debated it, discussed it, it's a different mindset. >> there are 1,700 players in the nfl. vast majority of them are well-behaved and well-adjusted. there are a lot of them they're young and got a lot of money and they don't know what to do with it. >> go to lauren. you were adding to this before. and i wanted -- i think i cut you off. >> oh, i have a lot to say. so, yeah, there are 1,700 players in the nfl. unfortunately, yes, they have a lot of talent. but a lot of them have a lot of privileges that come with that talent. and they get into these positions very young and they don't know how to handle themselves. they may not realize they're that role model and they may not act the right

not really in the nfl. in their private entity, they can do whatever they want, but really it starts with, you know, they have to set certain punishment and they have to enact it. these guys know it's real instead of just, you know, sort of roger just picking and choosing where he wants to enact it. >> i understand the due process part of this as an american, of course, but as you know, playing the nfl is a privilege. it's not a right. it's not a normal job. and a lot of teams in the nfl have been hiding behind the legal process and saying, well, you know, people are -- we have to wait until we see how the legal process plays out even though we see photographs of what this person did to their child, we see video of what that person did to their wife and in the greg hardy situation, the carolina panther, he was convicted of two domestic violence incidents and still allowed to apply because his appeal was forthcoming. i feel like, and i think a lot of americans feel like, the nfl should have a different stand

playing in the nfl is a public job with public responsibilities and the nfl has always said that it is not just convicted felons who are barred from playing. it's people who are outside the rules as we establish them and the problem as we've all been saying is that the rules of who can play and who can't play are very unclear and changing and we'll see if the commissioner has a clearer version of what those rules are today. >> we have president and ceo of national domestic violence hotline. have you noticed an uptick in people calling the hotline since all these allegations and these stories have been so talked about over the last two weeks or so? >> absolutely. we were evoverwhelmed last week from women and men who were calling for services and information regarding domestic violence. we were absolutely overwhelmed. unable to answer 50% of the calls from people who were trying to reach out to us. >> and this is a conversation clearly which you believe needs to be had. it's interesting how -- i mean, sunny hostin pointed out a week or so ago ray rice got into a diversion program in new

taking a dive into the nfl in a special we are calling "the nfl's media empire ."ft is bringing the nfl to your living room with its cap for the xbox one -- app for the xbox one. withs outfitted coaches surface tablets as part of a multiyear technology agreement. for more on the partnership, i'm joined by cory johnson in new burns strum, the director of the microsoft surface. james, welcome. you got off to a rocky start on the sidelines. what happened and what has been changed? >> thank you so much for having me. cory, nice talking to you again. with the microsoft sideline viewing system, the new rule allows the surface on the sidelines is changing football and really in a way we have never seen. coaches and players are using the devices and they are making decisions, they are bring -- being more productive. it is part of this new partnership we have with the league. we are just getting started, to your point. >> james, talk to me about pete carroll and his reaction when you put it in his hands. >> because of competition reasons, i would not talk about individual c

, an sent from today's nfl.it exists very visibly elsewhere.v! bill daily serves as that capacity in nhl. mark tatum in the nba, replacing adam silver, and at mlb, rob manford has that. there's no deputy director of the nfl. roger goodell was one but there is one -- not one right now. the press conference was to have begun eight minutes ago. if it starts during the break, we'll break out of thejack get to you live. honey, you did it! baby laughs! wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, shopping online is as easy as it gets. carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. i have $40,ney do you have in your pocket right now? $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem

you called your nfl liaison or his nfl liaison. what does that term mean?well, at the time, wally was in the drug diversion program with the nfl. meaning that he had been suspended, he had had the maximum fines and, at this poichb point, if he were to have another dirty urine, he would be suspended for a year from the nfl. so this person was put in place as a contact person so that if we were to go out of town, it was a person that we were to contact where ever with we were going or where we would be so that if wally had to do a urine drug screen, they would be able to contact us and come out and collect the urine. so, yes, that was the person that i contacted. and we were arguing about specifically wally's substance abuse issue that he was having with his job. and the argument escalated to me, you know, basically stating that i was going to call the nfl to let them know what was going on in the house, i was going to call the police and, you know, he went and got the bat. he went in the garage and, as i stated before, there's a perfect circle on my house at

there's not been a decline in attendance at nfl games. and for all the brave talk from sponsors, the actual money is still going into the pockets of the nfl owners -- in the vast majority of cases. if i could just add one point. anheuser-busch is getting all sanctimonious about the nfl. if we want to talk about domestic violence in this country and the influence of alcohol on domestic violence, it makes the nfl pale in comparison. so let's have a little less sanctimony from anheuser-busch. >> fran tarkenton, talking about the influence of the sponsors on this, they seem to be talking a big game. but at the end of the day, the only action i've seen has been radisson hotels pulling their advertising from the minnesota vikings. do you think that these sponsors need to be putting their money where their mouth is or taking it away, rather? >> they should. the nfl like the united states government, like wall street has gotten to be too big to fail. and they are popular. they're multibillion-dollar enterprises, the one piece of content on cable

arrive at the nfl. you don't know who might have seen it at that time but you have roger goodell telling cbs news that the league did not get the tape until this monday in september? >> did you know that a second tape existed? >> well we had not seen any video tape of what occurred in the elevator. we assumed that there was a video. we asked for video. but we were never granted that opportunity. >> when he takes it further and says we assumed there was video, we asked for the video, but we weren't granted to the opportunity and you report it was in his offices, what do you make of his answer? >> let's remember this video was sent unauthorized and unsolicited, so my source, my lawmaker official sent it unsolicited to the executive and it was an unauthorized copy. he could not do this. and that is why this is a -- sticky situation. and let's be clear, we never said that roger goodell viewed it and he may never have viewed any video. all my source says is this unidentified woman who saw it ant has the voic

more on the nfl.ording to the local fox affiliate in houston, texas, minnesota viking running back adrian peterson has been indicted on a charge of reckless or negligent injury to a child. the charges stem from allegations peterson beat his young son. peterson's attorney has declined to comment. peterson practiced with the vikings this afternoon. they are scheduled to play the new england patriots this weekend. i'm joined by terrence moore. this is yet another chapter, an embarrassment for the nfl and this was a story, this investigation that was way under the rug. this comes from nowhere. did you know this was being investigated by a grand jury? >> i don't think anyone was. it is raining men in the nfl and not in a good way. and here's another one. this is another star in the nfl. not just any player. it's a star player. when you start putting all this stuff together you've got to think that the 32 owners who hired roger goodell will have to say to themselves we will have to have a sack official lamb

the nfl suspended players for only 13 games combined. >> clearly the nfl has failed before. if roger goodell lied to the american people about something as serious as whether he had this graphic, gripping tape, he has to go for the sack of the nfl and the fans. >> i want to get into this idea of the public trust. we have seen several members of congress come out against goodell in recent days. senator earlier this clear you were within of 50 senators who wrote a letter asking goodell to intervene. get the redskins name changed. you noted an nfl team should not be nick named something so many people kid a racial slur. it seems like you have issues with goodell's moral authority. why is congress still granting the nfl an antitrust exemption? >> there ought to be scrutiny to a number of those special breaks that the nfl receives that give it a position public trust. it is antitrust exemption, as a cartel which otherwise would be broken apart by our department of justice or federal trade commission. its tax benefits. under the law. other kind of special treatment it receives. gi

he defended the nfl.id give us a couple mea culpas what he did but had no intention of resigning and he did have the full support of the nfl behind him. we'll stay on this story. bring in more what happened with alibaba and all of the stocks for the day in a moment. we do have charlie gasparino here who did call alibaba right on by the way. in fact it ended up a couple of dollars above his own expectations which many people said were too high. obviously charlie turned out to be right. it even nt

and maybe get back in the nfl?es or no? >> well, i think that there will be an opportunity at some point, but it's going to be very difficult to overcome that video. difficult with the fans, almost impossible with teammates. perhaps he'll get a second chance if he goes through and has a rehabilitation and does a lot of things. this is a guy who had a lot of act of kindness before this. he was very involved in anti-suicide, anti-bullying. this is a good man who has had an awful moment and this moment is going to define his life. and perhaps it should, but i believe down the road somebody somewhere will give him an opportunity. >> good to see you as always, my friend. here now to debate the nfl's decision to indefinitely suspend ray rice, you take a very strong position here that this is really none of the public's business? >> well, i think it's interesting that anti-testicular police are coming out and just taking this guy's balls and ripping them off and not paying attention to the fact that there is a family here

that the nfl, that logo. every time you watch an nfl game, no matter what, in the ads, at halftime, they have an nfl stamp in there. >> it should be those monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil. >> whatever. but if the place, if law enforcement is going to do their thing, the nfl is going to do theirs as well. roger goodell admitted he made a mistake. he said it shouldn't have been a two game, achkd a six-game second offense and then complete dismissal from the informal. >> when you have a private organization, first of all they are using the public air waives to send this stuff out and make al of money. whoem when there's been a history of this kind of abuse among your players, it steams to me that you have an -- >> i agree, bob. >> this action is bad for the brand because it shows they don't do anything until they're caught. but i think we the american people shouldn't be complaining about the nfl. if a crime is committed, you should be arrested. you should be suspended for as many games as you're in jail. that

they make 45% of nfl fans. 55% watch nfl on tv. are they more valuable to the nfl or advertisers? think you can separate those things. advertisers are valuable to the nfl therefore women are valuable to the nfl. there are also 70% of consumer spending. >> that's were the growth is as well. >> if you look at merchandise sales with what the nfl has done, to grow merchandise sales targeted at women is is a good indication that women are very interested in football. thatis staggering to me is they are still going to games and watching tv. >> one of the reasons we love having you on the show is you find quirky companies with great stories. mario, i want to buy something to participate on the digitization of sports. >> there are a lot of companies out there we are looking at one now that had accounting issues. they do post production and editing, but don't ignore the big companies. when the l.a. clippers itketball team was sold, marked up the valuation of madison square garden. you're getting the knicks and the rangers for free. the stock went from $48 to $66. if you want to watch sport

>> no. >> no one in the nfl? >> no one in the nfl to my knowledge, and i have been asked that same question, and the answer to that is no. >> but shortly after that interview, a law enforcement officer told the "associated press" he had sent the league a video that included the punch way back in april. here now is the nfl commissioner, roger goodell, live. >> thank you all for coming today. i'd like to make a few points and then of course i'll be happy to take your questions. at our best, the nfl sets an example that makes a positive difference. unfortunately, over the past several weeks, we have seen all too much of the nfl doing wrong. that starts with me. i said this before back on august 28th, and i say it again now: i got it wrong in the handling of the ray rice matter. and i'm sorry for that. i got it wrong on a number of levels from the process that i led to the decisions that i reached. but now i will get it right and do whatever is necessary to accomplish that. first, i don't expect anyone just to take m

when you wear the nfl logo, you have to represent the nfl a certain way. >> welcome to "unguarded."ther week of scandals in the nfl. fans are jut raoutraged. sponsors are pulling away. and new incidents and stomach turning police reports have just not stopped coming. after nine days out of the public eye, commissioner roger goodell finally gave a news conference this afternoon. take a listen. >> at our best, the nfl sets an example that makes a positive difference. unfortunately, over the past several weeks, we have seen all too much of the nfl doing wrong. that starts with me. i got it wrong in the handling of the ray rice matter. i am sorry for that. i got it wrong on a number of levels. from the process that i led, which is a decision that i reached. but now i will get it right and do whatever is necessary to accomplish that. we will implement new conduct policies. they will have a set of clear and transparent rules for league and club person them, owers, and players. >> now, roger goodell's conference lasted about 45 minutes. i do want to give him kcredit fr standing in the open

i think about all the nfl talks about protect the shield, which means protect the nfl itself so law-abiding folks can continue to be part of this and make money and be protected within doing the right thing i think about a group of people who protected a guy, who had broken the law, done something immoral, something horrific. why do you think the ravens organization was so unable to get around doing the right thing right away? >> it's complicated. being here around this ravens organization for as long as i have, they do things the right way. they typically handle these situations the right way. you can go back to the very first press conference ray rice had. it was just a statement. he didn't take any questions from the media. it was fumbled very poorly by ray rice. he read off his phone, his then-fiancee, now wife janay, apologized for her part in the incident. ray rice did not apologize to her. we walked away feeling it was a big failure. moving forward, certainly the nfl failed. they did interview ray rice and janay and they walked away feeling a two-game suspension was enough. as we kno

. >>> plus, nfl firestorm. new calls for the league commissioner to step down as a report suggests they had seen that shocking video months ago of ray rice cold coming his then fiance. what did they really know and when did they know it? >>> and, on the edge. >> the last thing i remember is getting in my hammock and went to sleep. >> how did this man sleepwalk off a cliff, falling 60 feet and live to tell the tale? but first, the "nightline" five. >>> when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else, as well. jobs. all over america. engineering an innovation jobs, advanced safety systems and technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. >>> number one in just 60 seconds. this is a different kind of a

the nfl is unveiling nfl now, whereby mobile highlights will be available, but not yet told games.games available online where and when we want to watch it? >> the over the air tv networks have helped told the golden egg the nfl has sat on because it reflects how our society consumes information and consumes sports. i'm waiting for nfl nano second immediacy, virtual season tickets. we are a few years away from that but the league is trying to reach out and generate every dollar they can. high tech is a bit of a challenge. >> obviously a 27 billion dollars contract is huge and the nfl commands a real live viewing experience. people will stop their evenings to watch games live. how much does the amount of money they get from television hold them back from embracing other kinds of technology? >> clearly it does, and i think we are at the juxtaposition now where people are looking down, not up. the more they look down through technology, are we losing the connectivity to the game itself? it's a great name and it's done on an event basis and that's why the nfl has been able to grow thei

but has that been felt in the nfl? you know, a lot of people have questioned it in the wake, of course, of what we're discussing for this hour, the ray rice scandal. rice did apologize for hitting his wife before the public knew really what that knockout blow looked like. take a listen. >> it's totally inexcusable. and i'm here today to tell you that i made the biggest mistake of my life. me. she can do no wrong. she's an angel. >> however, while rice himself says he is the only one at fault just minutes ago, you heard jamie sa janay saying she regrets her role in that night. so talking about domestic violence with a domestic violence attorney and the founder of the list. so ladies, welcome, first and foremost. this is so, so important we talk about this. rachel, to you, first, this is personal for you. i don't know how many moons ago you were in a psychologically and physically abusive relationship. you wrote about that months ago about the punch. sort of in an odd way bonded you. but given your view, your lens, when

nfl.ultiple sources tell nbc sports that ray rice will appeal his indefinite suspension for lying about what occurred in a casino elevator with his then fiancee. rice is expected to say he told officials the truth. what did or did not know about the altercation is leading to growing calls for commissioner roger goodell to resign. a woman's advocacy group flew this banner that had this hash tag, #goodellmustgo. response to the case led to powerful statements from sports broadcasters on sunday. >> it's the biggest mistake of roger goodell's career. he should have never been in the court process because then you have to be the investigator. then you have to look into all the details. he has other things -- >> too many inconsistencies. >> he should be the supreme court justice. there should not only be a trial court, an appellate process and if it gets to roger let it get to roger. this is a big mistake and it has to change. >> i spent this week answering seemingly impossible questions about t

i'm in the nfl. >> now the opinions of many sport watchers carry the most weight with nfl is those ofheuser bush spends 50 million a year and that doesn't include commercials during the game and the company is not quote with the league's handling of the situation. pepsico has a more mixed message. its president decries the behavior of the players in trouble but supports roger goodell. the company has $100 million annual deal with the nfl. and "the wall street journal" reports verizon has a billion dollar four-year deal with the league. and verizon ceo called domestic violence the plague and will work with the nfl to be a voice for change. a panel of former nfl players and domestic abuse advocates standing by to cover all of the angles. we want to start with rachel nichols in new york at a location where roger goodell is about to hold this news conference. rachel, do we have any idea what goodell is going to be speaking on? >> certainly expect him to address the incidents over the past couple weeks. we also expect him to announce new changes coming to the nfl's personal conduct policy.

the nfl makes too much money.by the way, the most punitive commissioner ever, but i think there'll be a massive call for him to quit. that doesn't make sense in the way the nfl works, it's the owners who have to take responsibility for that, not roger. but also, don't forget this, the owners have got to step up and do this. it's not roger's an employee as i said earlier. and then who will replace him? there's too much on the plate for this commissioner to leave, but it's the law enforcement in new jersey that was the problem here. they should have acted immediately and they did not. and that's another place we ought to turn our thoughts to. >> how though is this different, sticking with the nfl, how is this different from the michael vick incident? is this the biggest threat do you think the nfl has faced? >> well, no. the biggest threat they'll face will be going before congress, but michael vick, don't forget was convicted. he went through the justice system. served i think 18 months in prison. he came back, he

>> no. >> no one in the nfl. >> no one in the nfl to my knowledge.sked that same question and the answer to that is no. >> goodell and the nfl have faced intense criticism for the initial decision to suspend rice for just a couple dgames. when asked if he dropped the he ball he had this to say. >> was the nfl willfully ignore an the but what was on the tape. >> we certainly didn't the know what was on the tape but we've been very open and honest and i have also from two weeks ago when i acknowledged we didn't get this right. that's my responsibility. i'm accountable for that. >> today goodell is being asked to resign as commissioner from the nfl. analysts and sports professor from miami university. interesting, i asked you yesterday about what was going on, you said the nfl is lying, what do you say tonight? >> the nfl is lying. what comes to mind is ricky ricardo saying to lucy, someone's got some explaining to do. there's no way they would send this to the nfl office, and he has a voice mail it is received, and states clearly that the woman on the

the first thing people should know about the nfl is the nfl lies.s is a league hill don hypocrisy and bring damage. they want us to believe they are surprised that some of that violence spilled over into the personal lives of their players. the nfl treats domestic violence as if it is a public relations issue and their message in this entire story is, if you're going to commit domestic violence, do not get caught on videotape. it is a profound a cynical message. i understand why everybody is showing the videotape. i understand that because the new saw you of the videotape shows, first of all, the new jersey prosecutors who arrested ray rice and janay palmer when this incident took place, saying both were at fault, the nfl and the baltimore ravens, which advanced the narrative both were tofault, the video gives lie that. that is important for people to see. that being said, i think one of the reasons the tape is so powerful is we are conditioned in the society because of this incredible sexism in society to think in cases of domestic violence, the wo

and to see the nfl take on this problem which is, again, not just an nfl problem. it's an american problem. i'm sure you've discussed this in the past. one in four women will be -- will experience domestic violence in their lifetimes. the nfl has an opportunity and a responsibility for shedding light on that fact and setting a standard for how we want to be dealing with domestic violence in our society. i don't know that that requires stopping watching football entirely. >> great discussion. thank you. >> thank you. >> stay with msnbc for live coverage of roger goodell's news conference coming up at 3:00 eastern. >>> at the united nations, secretary of stale john kerry is holding a security council meeting to rally global support for the u.s. strategy against isis. it comes as congress this week gave their seal of approval to training and arming rebels in syria. up next, we'll talk with one congressman who voted no, emanuel cleaver. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as

>> no. >> no one in the nfl? >> no one in the nfl to my knowledge. >> reporter: the a.p.ays their source sent a dvd of the video unsolicited because he wanted them to see it before deciding on rice's punishment. the ap saying they played a 12-second voice mail message that came from an nfl office number on office 9th confirming the video had arrived with a female voice saying "you're write, it's terrible." the nfl said we have no knowledge of this. we are not aware of anyone in our office who possessed or saw the video before monday. ravens owner steve bisciotti admitting they dropped the ball in handling the incident. >> i was picturing her wailing on him and him smacking her and maybe her head was this far from the wall and with her ineastbound brags dropped. why did i conclude all that? because i wanted to, because i loved him, because he had a teller record, and the cops had already seen the record. i assumed it wasn't a forceful blow that moved her head three feet into that wall. >> reporter: the league continues to insist it reached out multiple times to police and

allowing ray rice to wear the nfl shield is an insult to current, former and future nfl players. and now he's out of the game. they got it right. >> but how many player, let's be very honest, how many players have done what ray rice did and not been kaukt on tape and not have the sanction that ray rice had? >> i don't know. you don't know. but we do know -- >> the number is greater than zero. >> well, certainly. but i'm not sure what that proves other than to make the nfl defensible. >>> by condemning ray, you stands up for the men and women who play well on the field and conduct themselves with dignityoff of it. ray rice doesn't belong in the narnl football league and he is out. the national football league may have taken a securetous route, but they got there. i think going forward, whether or not there's tape or not, they're going to err on the side of imposing more and stricter discipline on men who raise their hand to women and it shouldn't be any other way. >> why did they take this, though? this is the thing that is hard for people is, you know, why has it taken this? why

the nfl. >> i think they are going to be in more trouble for the cover- up than the actual crime of the giving the original light sentence to ray rice. >> reporter: dr. gary is founder of the national workplace bullying institute and says the very fabric of night knit teams can contribute to a culture of silence -- of tight-knit teams can contribute to a culture of silence. and fears a backlash of the wife. >> i worry about victims being blamed and that's where we're going to turn on this. >> reporter: hundreds of people gathered on the campus of santa clara university for an annual conference of sports law and ethics. the director of the university center for applied ethics says the nfl is such an influential organization, how it comes out in this case could impact other sports and possibly the culture of the country. >> the importance of professional sport is that it sets some of the norms and it tells what kinds of concerns are important. and if the nfl is not attending to safety and sexual

the nfl, of course, currently going through a bit of an image problem. >> the nfl, we can't trust these institutions. >> institution that has got all sorts of problems. >> this horrible, horrible institution. >> you will never find a more wretched of scum and villani. >> jon: not sure that last part was about the nfl but still, now we've all seen the tape of ravens runningback ray rice, and witnessed the league's reaction. the league, of course, dished out swift, old testament style justice. in the form of a two game ban. which due to enormous outrage and an another even more explicit tape became a lifetime expulsion. plus pernicious panthers pro ballplayer, accepted and noted. greg hardy's conviction on domestic violence charges resulting in no sus pex, and then a one game benching with an option to watch, followed by the panthers's announcement today that he is done until he appeals his misdemeanor conviction for domestic violence. it's the kind of firm decision-making we've come to expect from people without don't know what the [bleep] they're doing. (applause) >> so don't worry. the

spends millions of dollars every year on the ads, recruiting ads in nfl football games and the nfl gamesre broadcast on armed forces radio and other networks. here's what the pentagon said today. listen. >> what the secretary has done given what's been going on inside the national football league has simply asked to better understand our interactions with the national football league. in what ways and to what degree do we have -- do we partner with them. >> yeah, the nfl is clearly about to say that it will not tolerate any more domestic violence and the way players are being treated by teams certainly falling in line. this is arizona running back jonathan dwyer. he's a backup running back arrested on wednesday for aggravated assault accuse of head butting his wife and fracturing her nose. also threw a shoe at a 17-month-old son. cardinals have now deactivated him and his roster spot could be gone. the cardinals chris rainy was signed for the practice squad on september 9th, january 2013 he was accused of domestic violence. the cardinals have now cut ties with them. san francisco 49ers,

the nfl responded.of any one in our office who possessed or saw the individually before it was made public monday. we will look into it. but the question lingers, why did goodell require video proof of the beating in the first place? police documents obtained by abc news show the severity of rice's attack was clear almost immediately after the assault. police said rice punched his wife, rendering her unconscious. >> they didn't need the tape. that's the part that they have yet to own up to. for it to take a video and to take us being stuck with these kind of lasting horrible images i think is just -- just says a lot about how much the nfl missed the mark with this. >> reporter: this comes at a time when the nfl is trying to increase its female fan base even running tv ads with nfl gear for women. >> you did it week after week. >> reporter: one sported rice's number 27. this week, nike pulled the plug on rice's championship. fans turning in jerseys bearing his name. while his ban from football is indefin

nfl is one of the strongest brands in the country. that's why it's important that they are taking this issue on. beyond the ray rice issue, the nfl made a commitment to do a huge forward facing campaign, a campaign and domestic violence awareness campaign. they are committed to working with young men, middle school and high school and work on the connection between masculinity and violence to say you can hit hard on the field, but you can come home and be a good husband and father. >> as the president issued a statement from his press secretary, real men don't hit women, but the fact is there a lot of women fans on one of the nfl who love the game, but this behavior and response was so unacceptable, there were two other players who are still playing and their case is pending. >> it was shocking to me and they got a standing ovation from the fans. there was a push and pull. some fans were getting a standing ovation when some fans including some i know personally were mailing the pink jerseys back and saying i don't want any more of thi

what about the current nfl players? you think we've heard enough condemnation from them of the problems that now afflict the nfl? >> there are a few bold individuals, who have spoken out about it. whether it's through social media, which is better than nothing, i have spoke tune a lot of players who are greatly unhappy with not only commissioner goodell's handling of this incident, just using the ray rice as an example, that situation. but they are also unhappy that they have to be associated with that type of player now. they are unhappy about those individuals, have to remind everyone that this is a few who do wrong and give everyone a bad name. current players and former players. the one thing getting lost in this is that the nfl players are being villainized and i think everyone needs to know that in every nfl locker room, 53 men on a roster, there might be one despicable person. there may be ten jerks but the rest of those guys on that team which is the majority on an individual team and collectively in the nfl are

how does the nfl, how do the member teams of the nfl, their players, compare to society at large, the5 to 27-year-olds? >> like low lower than society at large. at the very least, certainly not higher than society at large. >> so oh do you buy into the idea that it's the media that oh -- there's a problem. one domestic abuse case is one too many. but has it occurred to you that the reason we're so fixated on this this week is because every incident out there is now being reported on, where we don't do that with 2500 plumbers, 2500 arc it tekts, 2500 talk radio hosts. >> yeah, i mean, that's a classic statistical fallacy to draw conclusions from the things that are most likely to be observed. so yeah, that definitely seems like a possibility. on the other hand, i think there's a chance that people don't quite understand the rate to which domestic violence takes place in society as a whole. and would be shocked to find that it's just as common in the rest of society as it is in the nfl. so that can cut either way. >> benjamin morris, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> we

from the nfl.heck out the picture of 71-year-old jerry jones, owner ever the class cowboys, is he getting sued to the tune of a million dancer a pc word for stripper for allegedly sexually assaulting her in 2009. that's real classy. i'm sure his wife and family don't deserve that you know what? neither do the fans or the young kids looking up to these owners. money, power, notoriety with that comes extra responsibility. and these guys? well, they are gross. they should just go away. spare us, leave the rest of us alone to enjoy the games. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. thanks for being with us. before we go on the eve of september 11th, a live look at the national memorial in shanksville, pennsylvania. and a special tribute to the people who died on united flight 93. a lantern ceremony is being held in their memory tonight and tomorrow, fox will bring you coverage of all the 9/11 remembrance ceremonies and right now stay with fox news channel for president obama's speech. good night from

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and what did the nfl know about this video? today, before suspending rice indefinitely, the nfl released a statement saying, quote, that video was not made available to us, and no one in our office has seen it until today. but that statement directly contradicts what some sports reporters wrote this summer. so all kinds of questions tonight. and this nfl story highlights a bigger issue that we have all over the country. joining me now, our msnbc goady taylor and former head coach of the new york giants, jim fossil. thanks to all of you for being here. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> coach, let me go to you first. what's your reaction to the suspension? and should the nfl, what should they have done months ago? should they have done this months ago? >> reverend, this is all coming out. i don't know anything about who saw it, when they saw it. it's a sad day. here's a young man that had a clean record, hadn't been arrested, as far as i know. hadn't been arrested. had no drug problems, had nothing. but it is sad to see what went on in

>>> the nfl taking action to deal with domestic violence issues. they are expected to make the announcement to impliment new training requirements and partnerships. >>> we are learning more about a bay area butcher beaten to death inside a south san francisco gym, what lead up to the dead aattack. >>> and the king fire burns 3000 more acres as crews on the front line struggle to contain it, the trouble they are said to be facing today and more about the man accused of setting the massive wild fire. >>> good afternoon. i'm tori campbell. breaking news out of new york. it is involving players in the league. yesterday roger goodell outlined a series of accepting to increase commitment to fight domestic and sexual violence. you're looking at a picture where that news conference will be getting underway at any moment. some of those incidents -- or some of the steps taken by the nfl include supporting the domestic violence hot line and sexual violence resource center. the commissioner is planning to require education and training for all players and staf

, we will speak with the wife of a former nfl player. when she reported being abused, the league pressured her to keep quiet. she will tell her story. all of that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the obama administration launched what it calls the first strikes of its expanded military campaign against the islamic state. the pentagon says u.s. warplanes bombed isis positions south of baghdad in support of iraqi forces under fire. the u.s. had carried out previous strikes under the stated mission of safeguarding u.s. personnel, helping refugees, and protecting infrastructure. the strikes in iraq come as the u.s. won pledges to fight isis at an international summit in paris. some 30 countries signed on to a statement vowing to defeat isis "by any means necessary." the u.s. did not invite iran to the summit, but confirmed it had reached out with an unspecified offer of cooperation against isis will stop there many in government rejected the u.s. overture as "hollow and