aware of any discussions that are being held at the nfpa? >> i'm not aware, but that could be something that could turn the tide. >> chief, do you have any -- >> yes. i don't sit on that committee, but i know it's being discussed by the committee. it's up to the manufacturers who also sit on the committee to come up with a product that can also be tested and can be then certified. >> commissioner cleaveland: so they don't have it. >> not yet, but current firefighters are there, and testing facilities. so they're demanding that from the manufacturers, but they've not come up with something that's concrete yet. >> commissioner cleaveland: i'm glad to hear you're involved with the nfpa so you can take our concerns directly to that body. thank you. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you very much, mr. president. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioner cleaveland. commission vice president covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you very much for your presentation, and i want to say this. as we've gone through all of the materia

the yellow is between ten and 15, which the nfpa standard is those should be "your relief pieces" that are only used in real dire times. and you can see 63% of our ladder trucks and 42% of our engines are over 20 years old. so we have done a little catching up, but we still have some work to do. and you know, also, in terms of responding to wild land fires and urban interspace fires, we often have to send our newer pieces up there because our older equipment is not trustworthy enough to make the trip up and back. so that, to me, is pretty telling. hose tenders, near and dear to my heart, and i hope to yours, as well. chairperson fewer, hose tenders, we are looking at -- we've been allocated four, for $4 million. and i am happy to explain that further so any of you who have any questions, but i think i've gotten to speak with each of you about this, and the importance of these. [please stand by] i had a rollover incident at the ocean avenue on-ramp, 11 people ejected from a vehicle. and you don't forget seeing dead bodies and seeing that kind of thing. and we respond professionally, bec

it's per ordinance 162-16, single exit, sprinklers required per nfpa, fire alarm to meet fire code section 1103.7.6.1 under separate permit and we will hear from the requester first. mr. kessler one have three minutes. >> i will disclose i'm a partner in a project that hired julius and they will have no affect on my decision. >> thank you. >> welcome. >> thank you. >> good evening. my name is john kessler and i live at 10 of 4 deloris street, apartment number 7 and i'm here to make a jurisdiction request to the board of appeals. this request concerns 201612225670 for the addition of two dwelling units in the garage at 1064 deloris street. in the interest of time, i will focus on the jurisdiction requested south. i will summarize a few of my concerns. at this point, i would like to submit letters from three other tenants who couldn't be here but was told by the board of appeals they could be taken into public comment. >> just give them to garry, if you could. >> today or landlord has only confirmed this work is i in the planning stages and provided conflicted assertions about the duration a