nfpa josh campbell who shared his thoughts under president trump.check your program guide for more information. >> recently in washington, d.c. new york times reporters robin and kate discuss the supreme court confirmation process of justice brett kavanaugh. here's a portion of the program. >> he's a very good lawyer and very good judge. he would probably not get up there and lie in front of the american people, but that he navigated the truth i think is a good way to put it, that there are conceivably different definitions of devils triangle and all of those terms and that he said he had too many beers for example and that understates how excessively he was drinking but he did say he had too many beers. that's the kind of thing, i mean. it was ultimately not necessarily a technical why, but that is actually, the drinking was a through line that we found in this book which is frankly what help to understand his development personally and what it was like as a young person and how these events may have happened and what might shed light on explaining

. >> do you ever pull anything from the nfpa? >> the curriculum for chief officers matches nfpa1021 for a fire officer so they do have a correlation and we can pull from that and make sure the topics are covered. >> good. you talked about the balancing tour services. have you gotten any push back on that? >> when we put it two weeks ago, there was some issues that came back from the field especially one of them was officers not working with their own driver on a regular basis. so we listened to the field we heard concerns, we pulled it back. we addressed those issues and we feel that now we have addressed those issues. we also wanted to have a time where the captains and double company worked together to have discussions with what's going on with the house and we addressed that issue too so there's things we have to do but we feel confident enough. we have we have a meeting with 798 tomorrow. we are going to make sure everyone is on the same page. >> when you have change you have to have a lot of conversations. >> absolutely. >>