doesn't mean there aren't occasions where that falls through between a cia and an fbi or an nsa with an nga, so forth, that whole alphabet soup, and by and large we've been doing that for many, many years. the collaboration, moving toward that center. again i think the past decade we've shown a jointness at collaborating a whole lot better. that is, simply two parts coming together and saying, what's the task at hand, what's the challenge we're facing, let's work together toward it. i will put in my pieces, you put in your pieces. i'm talking about a different model at integration. not on every single subject, not on every effort but where it makes sense. you bring the human capabilities integrated against that same target set in terms of what the defense humint effort is with the national clandestine service is one example. where cyber is concerned, you integrate the focus on that problem set, rather than having it separate and still collaborating. so i think i've given you a bit of a sense where i think we're going while still giving you an idea where i think we've come from over the past