captain nguyen estes and questions concerning the dede two and a dede three, do you recall that? >> and again i'm not as conversant in obvious oil and gas issues and i wasn't paying as close attention, that i thought i heard you say that you had some involvement in that process, is that correct? >> what my role in the response is to what it committee were doing because it's quite technical and put it in a language that we can communicate with the general public, press, different interested parties. i do understand what's going on on our relief of them can talk about. >> with respect to that, the captain had asked you about the use of the contractor for both of those wells. and i understand your testimony to how bad it is transocean, correct? >> now, with respect to does that duties, can you tell me, sir, whether anyone within bp has said again with respect to the subsequent relief effort that you need to be careful about transocean? >> i have not heard that, no. >> has anyone with bp told you with respect to these with the falls, you need to be particular about the equipment and