f]nhm?" accounting or accountability or anything, increased auditing finding more problems or does the system actually work pretty fair and pretty honestly? a lot of senior executives have told me i'm really invested to get this right because they can -- i can get into a lot of trouble and i don't want to get in trouble with my primary customer. >> e4(c+n officer and if it's going to return a greater amount of savings. and, again, when you go back that far, there needs to be records pulled or receipts found, employees contacted and some of that becomes questionable. >> when -- by definition, though, aren't all audits thorough? i mean, when they say the greater thoroughness of an audit, what do they exactly mean by that? >> there are audit that is have been thorough. what they mean is they are you go up to the right level, right chain of command and so they're making sure that that level of thoroughness is evident in the work that they do. again, though, that's a lot of documentation that take