joining us in the studio, niall macdowell, thank you for being with us. you were listening to that. china, is it a developing or developed country, and we're also hearing big support of the deal as it stood, but tell us little bit about china. why is it right now. >> china is very big. china has something like 1.34 billion people living within its borders. the east coast of china, shanghai-beijing, very developed and absolutely a 21st century economy, but the west of china, much less so. to say that china is a developing or developed country it's a misnomer. that's equivalent to trying to equate the very eastern part of europe to the western part. >> when it comes to co2 emissions, where do they stand

niall macdowell, thank you. >>> well, now let's go to daniel, he's in ben cross arie s aries. what is the view of argentina and the whole of latin america? >> certainly there are countries like brazil and argentina, they're looking at the words like shall and should. are they developing countries or are they developed countries? brazil like china are developed in many areas, and very under developed in other areas. they might ask what their responsibilities are once we do see the emergence of this deal in paris. the other question here is in argentina certainly. what will happen. these countries are very good at saying the right things, but they're tempted by the short-term economic gain. they have fragile economies, they're rich in natural resources. so when they get the opportunity to develop oil and gas resources they often do that. and so they have short-term economic problems. what will happen in paris is difficult to predict, certainly in the short term. >> daniel, we're watching those pictures out of paris. 195 nations presented there. they have been talking about nothi

. >> niall macdowell, you'll be staying with us. i just want to remind the viewers of what we're seeing. the climate change has been meeting for the past two weeks, and now most of the delegates have taken the seat. we'll remind you of what the key points are of that draft meeting. and then a plan to review each nation's pledges to take action on greenhouse gas emissions every five years. while we're waiting for that session to start there in paris we can speak to our environment editor nick clark, who has been following the debate. i guess this is a fancy way of saying, poll licing tha policing that the nations will do what they've signed up to doing. >> yes, it is about insuring all these voluntary carbon reductions that the individual countries have come up with are implemented, and the targets they have set are not legally the process has to be transparent. the word transparency causes problems as time went on. looking at what is going on at the moment. everything seems to about to happen. 45 minutes ago. but things have slowed