how are you handling all of this michelle alexander, john legend, nicholas christophe love? >> it's wonderful. i don't do the work for recognition. i do it because it needs to be done. and somebody needs to do it so i picked up the banner to help women escape the criminal justice system. myself. i travelled in and out of prison for almost two decades and there was no help for me until october 4 of 1997. i found help in santa monica. october 4 etched in my brain. and i found that treatment in santa monica was much different than in south l.a. for, you know, a controlled substance, for addiction. and i found in santa monica and i brought it back to south l.a. >> treatment is different how? >> people in santa monica when i was there in 1997, they weren't going to prison for being in possession of a controlled substance. they were given a court card or being diverted to a treatment program. i can remember a young man in a 12-step meeting complaining about the color green. he had an accident under the influence of alcohol and drugs and his sentence was to paint the jail. my sente