quite know, i didn't quite know why they went release, specifically why they weren't released nicholas elliott's version. equally. i'm not certain that nicholas elliot knew the full story. i think, i think, as i say in the book, i think antony blunt had a major role that a lot of people did not want to get on to this because i was, i wasn't aware of that at all. no, this is one of britain's most famous say, art critics hanger at the the queen's pictures friend of the queen for long. yeah, i'm related in fact to the queen, mother and he has to do distance. i mean there's so much in the book, john kerry comes out terribly wanting to kill phil b. but tell me about blunt why? yes, he in beirut, around the same normally be in london in the center london of the quarter all dec. exactitude for art. exactly. it seems to me and i'm, there's a degree of speculation in this, i confess. but i, i think i proved that anthony brown was in bare route for 3 or 4 weeks before phil . b was interviewed by elliott and i think antony blunt, her became aware that philby was going to be confronted. now blunt had lost h

and that is why nicholas elliott felt comfortable in, disappearing back to london. and i think back off to africa where his next job was to seem surprising. the dick, why do i find from the building next door to the studio would think of to decades with so much information and secret stuff was being leaked. cilla k g b in that some that suddenly turn one new element or because he didn't, i was, he's to me because he didn't want to. he didn't want to go. i think he, he did miss britain when he, when he got to moscow he was. and this is, this is a very murky area and i can't tell you for sure. he was madly in love with eleanor because nobody really knows what was going on. the field is mine, but to teach to me he was very, very fond of it. he was having an okay time in beirut. he was drink, you know, a lot, but this is wife is usually what she did on the american. it almost will need to fact that it's that's right. that's right. but i think, i think ultimately he, he didn't particularly want to go to moscow. but he ended up, he ended up doing so for reasons i go into