>> guest: i think it was claimed by people like nicholas kristof. it's a very widely used term. for people like me who basically direct nonprofits and do different things in the nonprofit sector. >> host: how did you get involved with appalachian girls in middle school in western north carolina? >> guest: that is a long story that i write about. it really begins with my own history. i grew up as an appalachian girl, working class in a tiny little town and i was the first in my family to go to college, which was a very big step for me and ended up through a scholarship from a group getting a scholarship going to college and doing super well in college and ended up finally after a lot of stumbles and falls going on getting a graduate degree from harvard and that journey that i experience myself came back to north carolina and founded this nonprofit. >> host: when you say you work with appalachian girls, what do you do? >> guest: i teach. the people that work with me on this nonprofit created this kind of out of school for another opportunity for the girls living in the most rural

>> guest: atingua's point -- coined by people like nicholas kristof but it's a widely used term for people like me who basically direct non-profits and do different things in the nonprofit sector. >> host: how did you get involved with appalachian girls in middle school in western north carolina? >> guest: that is a long story that i write about in "the road out." it begins with my own history. i grew up as an appalachian girl is a working-class girl in a tiny mill town in the mountains of north carolina. i was the first in my family to go to college which was a very big step for me. i ended up through a scholarship from a group called aauw getting a scholarship going to college and ended up finally after a lot of stumbles in a lot of falls going on and getting a bachelor's degree from harvard and education. that long journey that i experience myself came back to my native souls which was north carolina and found this nonprofit called page and began working with appalachian girls out here. >> host: when you say you work with appalachian girls what do you do? >> guest: i teach, so i, be peo

>> guest: i think it was claimed by people like nicholas kristof. it's a very widely used term.eople like me who basically direct nonprofits and do different things in the nonprofit sector. >> host: how did you get involved with appalachian girls in middle school in western north carolina? >> guest: that is a long story that i writeu

so i asked nicholas kristof andie liand eliza griswold to join us. nicholas has been reporting on the story and his column last sunday was one of the ways that the kidnapping came to the world's attention. and eliza griswold is a journalist that spent 20 years traveling along the world's parallel, including new jeer ig. she wrote a book about it called "the tenth parallel." what is boko haram? >> boko haram is a group that's really more of a mess than a militant group. they are a bunch of armed young men who come out of an islamic movement in nigeria. so nigeria is split, north/south, mostly christian and muse lilims. >> the muslims generally have more power. >> right. and they have no rights, even to go to school. it's a radical movement who has come out of disenfranchised young people who attack things they see as western in an effort to mobilize islam but really in an effort to gain power. >> you talk about this in your last book. how do you make sense -- would it be fair to call this islamic fu fund mentalism? what is behind this? >> i think we ha

there was an interesting article today and op-ed by nicholas kristof in the "new york times." "while there has been a major international search for the missing people on mh flight 370, there's been no meaningful serve for an even greater number of missing school girls. secretary kerry said this is terrible, the nigerian government is apparently not doing much to find these young women, we're told will be sold as wives to some of these terrorists. kristof said we need the u.s. to do something. is there something the u.s. can do? >> one thing i believe the u.s. who has been way too silent on the brutality, the lack of human rights in the muslim world for women, and i think that's one of the roles i think the senate foreign relations committee can play there, hold hearings, highlight that so americans, so the world sees this type of abuse, so it really is about communications and awareness. >> one thing that's true, the whole world looks to the united states, whether it's in africa, whether it's in ukraine, whether it's in asia, there's no substitute for the united states, and m