and joining us now is nicholas kristoff, a pulitzer prize -winning journalist in an author, he's alsomes columnist who has just returned from assignment in israel. nick, you have just returned from israel, what did you learn for what did you feel? >> boy, i don't think i've ever been as depressed on a trip as this time. the mutual animosity and dehumanization on each side i think is getting worse by the day. you know, as it is right now, a child is dying on every ten minutes in average in gaza. that is inflaming the west bank understandably. meanwhile, israelis are extraordinarily traumatized, understandably, from the hamas attacks on them. and i just see this cycle of bloodshed continuing, i wish that the, i mean, president biden at this point has just enormous residence and popularity in israel. i wish that he was using his capitol a little more forcefully to try to encourage israel to, you know, allow fuel to get in, to run generators and hospitals. and to target hamas more directly with fewer civilian casualties. >> but what we don't know about the story, i am not sure whether we

. >>> next on gps, i'll talk to nicholas kristoff who will dispel what he calls the smiths about this conflict. >>> let's talk more about the israeli hist palestinian conflict with nicholas kristoff, columnist for "the new york times." he recently administratived israel and the west bank and has been writing on the war in my opinion. his latest column on the subject is called "what we get wrong about israel and gaza." hi, nick. you talk about three myths and i just want to quickly list them. the first is that this is a conflict in which it is absolutely morally clear all of the right is on one side and all of the wrong is on another and i point out it is a clash between two rights. you say that the israeli myth that the palestinians could be strong along indefinitely and the can kicked down the road indefinitely and the one i've heard so on in days and particularly from israeli friends, it is too bad that we have to use so much force but the only side only understands bruta brutal violence. we live in a rough neighborhood, we just have to show that we could be absolutely brutal and --

joining me now new york times columnist nicholas kristoff. i'm so glad that you are here.ad a really thought-provoking piece that i was just pouring over because you really are asking these sorts of questions. this conflict, as you know, it is happening halfway around the world from where we are right now but you just saw what is happening to jewish, to muslim communities right here in this country. there is a palpable fear in both of these groups and it feels like it is, perhaps, going to get worse? >> that's right. i mean, i just came back from the middle east and i must say, the middle east was more on edge than i've ever seen it in four decades of covering the area. i do think that the bloodshed is going to get significantly worse in the middle east. there is a real risk of it escalating and that then spreads here in the u.s. and europe. you know, frankly, laura, i think part of the problem is our world and the media, not cnn, not the new york times, but there are a lot of organizations that are taking advantage of this to amplify hatred towards a particular community