nicholas sullivan is fellow at the fletcher school and auth or of can you hear me now? microloans and cell phones are connecting the world's poor to the global economy. i think most people would be surprised to hear is that there is a subsidy for cell phones for the very poor. >> it's about two years old and started in 2008, but it's just an extension of a subsidy that existed since the 1980s during the reagan administration for land line phones. >> it comes out of my land line bill? >> it does. it's called the universal service fee that is tacked on t the end of your phone bill and goes into a pool and washington used it to sisidiz land line access for low income americans. cell extended to covercc1: phones as well because of the recognition of the general trend lines. >> what's the real problem here? what's the essence of the objection? >> i don't think there is an objection really. >> surprise. >> i will answer that. it's the feeling that cell phones are a luxury. >> it was thought that there was another obama program and so forth, but actually a reagan program that