to a signal of support, and that is fascinating to me. >> "new york times" political reporter nick confessorechanged. nick, thank you so much. it's a fascinating read. bruce lavell is the executive director of the national diversity coalition for trump. mr. lavell, let's just start with what we just talked about there with nick. is donald trump running, has he been running a divisive campaign? >> no. absolutely not. no. none whatsoever. you know, it's amazing how the gentleman before said that -- you know, saying donald trump had some form of rhetoric about mexicans coming across that are rapis rapists. the term is illegal immigration, which has always been mr. trump's message from day one. mexico being a neighboring state with texaco -- with texas -- which is our bordering country, which is where a lot of the drug trafficking and illegal immigration has been coming across the borders. so i have to disagree with that. mr. trump is the only one that's never mentioned race. it's ironic how we're on the subject about him being -- you know, using the word race when he has never made any identific

joining me, msnbc contributor nick confessore and josh barrow, senior editor for business insider.nitely a much cooler atmosphere. >> absolutely. it was a real mess during the 4:00. whenever hillary's name would be mentioned you would hear booing. there would be bernie delegates chanting. i heard some members of the california delegation chanting wikileaks and count the votes that's related to conspiracy theories about california not having properly counted and sanders really having won that primary which are not credible. it's much calmer right now. i know bernie sanders sent this text message to supporters asking them not to make disturbances in here so maybe that mattered. also, just yelling for hours is exhausting. maybe people are just getting tired. >> there was some one from the iowa delegation said it's like he's been feeding us mountain dew all election, now he wants us to go to bed. >> look, he wound up expectations for his movement and did so past the point at which it was realistic that he would win. he only began bringing them down gently a few weeks ago and really ver

and nick confessore, political reporter for "the new york times" and an msnbc contributor. so many titles. so accomplished. great to have you here. we had this historic moment. interesting, because the whole convention felt like it was built really to speak directly to particularly white, married women, but just women in general. do you think that hillary clinton accomplished anything over the course of those four nights that might actually move the needle for the general election? >> i think out there in her suffragette white, she did give a lot of american women pride. but i think she also talked beyond it. there was a passage in her speech last night that didn't get much attention. but she's always being told she doesn't tell the elizabeth warren, bernie sanders story of the economy. but she said the economy isn't working because politics isn't working. she really made the case it's decisions we've made, whether it's citizens united, whether it's the privileging of the banking system, the lack of investment in college education, but these are political choices we've made