nick gillespie agrees but if the athlete dopes he is cheating. >> he is a liar and a lovely but it isategorically wrong to focus on performance-enhancing drugs the only way to gain the unfair competitive edge over colleagues. and '50s and '60s there innovative trading regimes that was kept secret. is that unfair? using technology, a longtime critic bicycle rider the first to win the tour day france, he beat the french champion by using technologically advantages and by the with the french man he beat use drugs he admitted to steroids and amphetamines. to think it will take any of us to the top is not true with then they are vilified because they think people are afraid of drugs but not to eat a diet or training. john: i would add wes sick i surgery. tiger woods improved his vision and his game. >> why isn't as more reprehensible? baseball pitchers have reconstructive surgery who can throw better than before. athletes are competitors first and foremost, looking for an edge. but with the tour day france back at 1903 people have been dumping the entire existence only in the mid-60s it be

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nick gillespie agrees but if the athlete dopes he is cheating. >> he is a liar and a lovely but it is categorically wrong to focus on performance-enhancing drugs the only way to gain the unfair competitive edge over colleagues. and '50s and '60s there innovative trading regimes that was kept secret. is that unfair? using technology, a longtime critic bicycle rider the first to win the tour day france, he beat the french champion by using technologically advantages and by the with the french man he beat use drugs he admitted to steroids and amphetamines. to think it will take any of us to the top is not true with then they are vilified because they think people are afraid of drugs but not to eat a diet or training. john: i would add wes sick i surgery. tiger woods improved his vision and his game. >> why isn't as more reprehensible? baseball pitchers have reconstructive surgery who can throw better than before. athletes are competitors first and foremost, looking for an edge. but with the tour day france back at 1903 people have been dumping the entire existence only in the mid-60s it

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nick gillespie pee from reaso fv disagrees. why?lood, he's cheating. >> you're right that lance armstrong is a liar and a bully, but it's categorically wrong to focus on performance-enhancing drugs is the only way that athletes gain competitive advantages over their colleague. there were times in the '50s and '60s when track coaches came up with innovative training regimes that they kept secret or used on only their athletes. is that unfair competition? is using certain times of technology, greg lemond, the first american he to win the huge create critic of lance armstrong. he beat a competitor by using technological advantages that the frenchman chose not to. the man he beat used drugs. he later admitted to using both descroidz and amphetamines, so the idea that drugs are the magic pill that will take any of us or me to the top of the tour de france just isn't true, but they get vilified because people are afraid of drugs in a way they're not afraid of eating certain types of diets or training or whatever. >> john: i would add to y