we have editors nick gillespie and matt welch, editors at tremont. >> let's talk about the libertarian. >> so far it has been a demonstration project of how democrats and conservatives can screw things up and now we have the obama version and liberal democrat version of screwing everything up. so people understand that they are trying to control more and more parts of peoples lives and it doesn't work and are looking for an alternative and that is what libertarianism offers is the idea of free minds and free markets that you can control more parts of your life is the one i want to believe you, but i don't see many people getting into that. >> a shorthand for this can be fiscally conservative and socially tolerant. it will show you that americans are much more physically conservative than their elected representatives and a majority of americans think that we should balance the budget. they think that we should legalize marijuana, no one wants to talk about that,. >> but more are coming around? >> yes, they will come around last. and so when you have this, there's much more libertariani

we have editors nick gillespie and matt welch, editors at tremont. >> let's talk about the libertarian. >> so far it has been a demonstration project of how democrats and conservatives can screw things up and now we have the obama version and liberal democrat version of screwing everything up. so people understand that they are trying to control more and more parts of peoples lives and it doesn't work and are looking for an alternative and that is what libertarianism offers is the idea of free minds and free markets that you can control more parts of your life is the one i want to believe you, but i don't see many people getting into that. >> a shorthand for this can be fiscally conservative and socially tolerant. it will show you that americans are much more physically conservative than their elected representatives and a majority of americans think that we should balance the budget. they think that we should legalize marijuana, no one wants to talk about that,. >> but more are coming around? >> yes, they will come around last. and so when you have this, there's much more libertariani

. >> you convinced me more than nick gillespie ever could. >> it does sound menacing. >> that actually translates 20* i like bunnies. >> even i can't argue with that. >> i am clearly world famous. >> it doesn't matter if they love you, hate you, as long as they know you. >> small thing, but it is important it is pronounced -- there is good leaks and bad leaks much like my bladder. the good leak will be how we learned how google was infected foregoing back to who knows when? that's a good leak. merkel and her cell phone would be a bad leak. it is one and another and some of the other. >> i want to know what the good leak from your bladder is. >> no you >> i just want -- can i make one point? what snowden says about the fact he leaked this stuff leading to a discussion of it, he is right. despite the fact that president obama miss spoke as the new york times would say and he welcomed the debate on this stuff, he didn't welcome a debate. snowden is right when he said his disclosure forced it to happen and it is a good debate. >> you know where i can find two sides of the story? -- >> on t