that's what we're working on >> nick, thank you very much for the time today nick hampton with us, cfo of tate & lyle. >> shares of hello fresh, the german meal kit startup company making their market debut in frankfurt. you can see 10.63 on the screen. that's up 3.7% the issue price 10.25. successful listing on day one for this business. the ceo will join us, dominik richter, that interview at 10:10 cet let me pickup with andrea waiting patiently. let's see what you think about central banks and the fed is the focus. markets waiting to hear confirmation of jay powell as the next head of the fed el-erian saying there's no confidence in markets, do you agree? do you think there's a chance of misstep? >> there is. the fact that we're talking about the fed being on autopilot is -- should be a red flag you should try to expect the unexpected sometimes the fact that powell is seen as the more likely candidate to follow in janet yellen's footsteps gives a sense of continuity to the market, to the fed. there's a bit less disruption in terms of expectations. >> typically we should grind higher