and nick hanaeur's perspective, the guy in the film, his perspective is that, "look, if my customersoney, my skill as a businessman will show through clearer. i can make more money and also my cleverness as a businessman will be more evident." so it -- we went to the folks who believe that message. and who are wealthy as well. and thank goodness, there are some, or else there would be no film today. >> you can see my complete interview with jacob kornbluth at billmoyers.com. i'll see you there, and i'll see you here, next time. >>> don't wait a week to get more moyers. visit billmoyers.com for exclusive blogs, videos, and essay features. this episode is available on dvd for $19.95. to order, write to the address on your screen. funding is provided by carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy. the kohlberg foundation. independent production fund, with support from the partridge foundation, a john and polly guth charitable fund. the clements foundation. park foundation, dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. the herb alpert foundatio