with us, nick hardwick, one time chief inspector of prisons for england and wales, and prison reform matthew torbitt. nick's here too. what is in this new strategy? as you are saying. — what is in this new strategy? as you are saying. a — what is in this new strategy? as you are saying. a big _ what is in this new strategy? as you are saying, a big announcement - what is in this new strategy? as you are saying, a big announcement by i are saying, a big announcement by shabana mahmood tomorrow, the headline is that the labour government will spend £2.3 billion over the next two years on prison bills. and the target is opening up of 14,000 bills. and the target is opening up of 1a,000 new places by 2031. bills. and the target is opening up of “1,000 new places by 2031. that will mainly break down as 61100 places in four new prisons, and 61100 places in four new prisons, and 61100 places in four new prisons, and 61100 places in new blocks on current sites. let's look at the screens now. to understand this, we really need to see this as part of a twin track strategy. there is shabana mahm