let's speak to nick. lena savvy, said shabba. this was joining us from creatures capital zagreb. so tell us nick lena, about the reactions and how the victims families are receiving this verdict. first of all, the verdict is not to be and because both the prosecution and defense have the right to appeal prosecution has requested to life imprisonment. for sunday, she didn't seem to reach for me or sort of be on intelligence. officers and defense require has requested their quito the may need them, the courts, a sense of sentence, tonisha, johnson markovich on 12 years in prison. they're convicted for joint criminal enterprise for killings, war crimes, deportation, relocation of ethics cross and both increased and both had to go in during the war former yugoslavia but to survivals and relatives of victims increased and bold, both in head to going to are not satisfied. they're not satisfied because 1st of all, the child left, it's too long. 18 years long child 18 years of child. they say it's not justice. they're also not satisfied with sentence. so years of prison in prison for spa