we're going to get to that after this wall where you're going to hear nick muscle mulvaney saying we have the money. >> nick mulvaney had been in washington for a while, why do they seem surprised that the obstruction tis here. >> i think we're surprised at the aggressiveness that they're playing. the whole thing has trump has won has been resist, resist. everything he's doing the ultimate goal is fail. as we're talking about the shutdown and part of it was trump not being a career politician and kind of being frustrated and venting from the mouth. there should be no reason for a shutdown particularly when republicans have control of the congress and as long as they get some kind of partnership with democrats they should be able to avoid. back to the part of victories i see a lot of both sides, you saw for d the school choice bill, you saw three years of funding provided for that. there was funding provided to secure the border, the southern border and as trump and maloney said this is just one of many more to come. even if the president's words were taken out of little bit were a li

but we're talking about nick mulvaney, folks. we do want to give you a sneak preview of former u.s. y secretary interview with our very own maria bartiromo for wall street week. listen. >> director mul mulvaney is being dishonest because suggesting that we had used the same practice as their practice. they are the first to depart from what the whole big world think so. cheryl: maria kept going. it's going to be on wall street week this friday night at 8:00 p.m. right here on fox business because maria bartiromo pretty awesome as well. coming up, we've got a texas sheriff facebook post. and that sheriff is now being accused of being a racist after telling politically-correct americans to wake up to terrorist threats after the manchester attack. that sheriff is going to react to all the hate on social media. finally. hey ron! they're finally taking down that schwab billboard. oh, not so fast, carl. ♪ oh no. schwab, again? index investing for that low? that's three times less than fidelity... ...and four times less than vanguard. what's next, no minimums? ...no minimums. schwab has lowe

nick mulvaney is absolutely right, why trust their numbers?tha: they tend to look at taking away the program would do. >> excellent point. makes insurance cheaper and providing more options is likely to generate more people signing up but they don't look at the effect of marketplaces, they look at what the government does. the government always gets it right, therefore they overestimated. they did the same thing on the medicare part d, they overestimated the cost and underestimated how many people would sign up. >> martha: you never find out what's in it until you live through it for the most part. in terms of the language of mick mulvaney, he's talking about a taxpayer budgets. it's fine to spend all this money on this programs but it's your money. are you okay with us spending this money on the program if the program has been proven to not work or if they are too many people. maybe 30,000 is too many people to work at the state department. he's approaching this in a novel way. politically, can this work, is that an argument that can resonate

maria: i will speak with nick mulvaney this morning live stay with us send me a tweet in terms of those questions you want mulvaney to answer earnings setting the tone apple a drag on dow industrials take a look down almost 1%, the technology giant reporting mixed results unexpected decline, in iphone assess what is weighing on stock i should point out this is well off the lows of the morning on apple. it had been down almost the 2%, broader market, market came back a bit off the lows here dow industrials expected down 10 points, 12 points, the opening of trading, waiting on jobs market data we are waiting on first look at jobs market leading up to friday's government report, the adp report due out 15 minutes we will get numbers to you as soon as they hit the tape expectations call for jobs, of 175,000, created added to the the economy last month, investors waiting on federal reserve, the fed decision, happens this afternoon no change in rates is expected, this is the conclusion two of-day meeting know janet yellen press conference in europe take a look major necessity down a quarterly

. >> this budget exists somewhere over the rainbow where the dreams of nick mulvaney, paul ryan and the of course, these dreams are a nightmare for the average working america. when you add it all up, the trump budget is comic book villain bad, and just like comic books, it relies on fantasy to make all the numbers work. >> this is a budget that is immoral, that will cause an enormous amount of pain for the most vulnerable people in our nation. >> we'll hear a lot more about the president's budget later today when treasury secretary steve mnuchin and nick mulvaney testify on capitol hill. >> that does it for us on this jam packed wednesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin and louis burgdorf. "morning joe" starts right now. >> this week he's met with muslim leaders, jewish politicians and now the head of the catholic church. president trump will soon wrap up his quick visit to the vatican where he and pope francis met for the first time after publicly sparring on a number of issues, but there is no salvation from washington where the former cia chief gave the mos

the budget director nick mulvaney says it's time for washington to rethink how it writes its spendinghink for years and years, we've simply looked at a budget in terms of the folks who are on the back end of the programs, the recipients of the taxpayer money and haven't spent nearly enough time focusing our attention on the people who pay the taxes. i've got a couple questions yesterday about compassion. compassion needs to be on both sides of the equation. you have to have compassion for folks receiving funds and compassion for folks paying it. >> i get it. and if you're nick mulvaney and this was the message you believed as a house member who left one consecutive group to join a more conservative group and is from a district where you can sell this argument and in a lot of america, you can make the case to anyone the government should live within its means. the problem is, how to get there. and so dead on arrival from even republicans. never mind the democrats to this budget. however, it is a blueprint from the president of the united states that essentially republicans say they'll

nick mulvaney, did they have all the funding in that? he said they funded a big beautiful wall with a door in the middle. is that what they do? >> no. this bill included no money for the wall. this bill included -- >> wait. hold on. >> i like that. >> i feel really confused here. >> you say this bill doesn't fund that wall? >> it doesn't. >> what was he doing? >> he said that's what this bill would do. >> fund that wall. >> i think since mr. mulvaney left capitol hill and went across town to the white house he's maybe lost a step. >> i've seen guys like this. he looks like a real estate developer. and here is the second phase. going to be a beautiful condo. >> again, you have to mime that part of it. there is no wall there. >> what's going on, jake. i'm a little confused. >> if you talk to republicans on capitol hill, especially conservative republicans like mulvaney. his old friends on capitol hill, they say they lost this funding debate. they didn't get money for the wall, hardly got any priorities through. republican leadership takes

just to go to what nick mulvaney said i know him and work with him but they're cutting medicaid to giveat the top big tax breaks, whether it is in the aca repeal or in this proposed budget. just because the president proposed it, first of all, doesn't mean that that's the budget we will take up, but the republicans in congress clearly are going to use the president's budget as their template. they certainly haven't denied that. and bernie's exactly right. everything they've done so far has been targeted at getting big tax breaks to the people at the very top, and to cut between the budget and the affordable care act repeal $1.4 trillion out of medicaid means basically poor people will not have access to health care, so that the richest americans can have a big tax break and just have more in their bank accounts. >> sir, you have to agree while obamacare is popular there are serious flaws and there needs to be fixes for people. we know that there have been some hot republican town halls where people complained about losing or overpaying, but that it has saved their lives. but don't you a

nick mulvaney pushed back. p if you are 30 years old and you are watching h or you're sitting here you have never had a job as an adult in a healthy american economy. it's either been a recession or a slow sluggish economy stem knowledge along at less than 2 percent growth. if you don't like your job, you can quit because you know you can go and get another job. if you get laid off you can go and start your own business. that's what people have forgotten about. the budget assumes a certain level& of growth happening in the united states. >> it also assumes that the majority of tax cuts that the president wants to put into effect are put into effect and the people spend that money in the first place. is this a house of cards, you pull out the card that says this tax cut doesn't happen, where do you go from >> the administration projects a 3 percent growth. the budget office said a little bit less than that, about half of that. you want to see growth in this country and you hope that maybe all the numbers check o

the trip comes amid a key battle at home the president first full beige released, omb director nick mulvaneyen from the perspective of the people who actually pay for government, we went line by line through what this government does, and asked ourselves can be justify this to the folks who are actually paying for it. >> i will speak with director mulvaney in program he will walk us through the budget, and on into to the criticisms around that budget join us coming up in the program. huge warning for retail best ballet sears strong earnings surging premarket best buy shares up 13% sears holding up almost 13% better than expected quarterly numbers facebook eyeing content again social media site reportedly reaching deals with several content creators for video service what it maintenance coming up markets this morning like this to look at futures a higher opening for the brrnlz dow industrials up 60 points nasdaq up 20 points -- stocks right now initially jobless claims up 1,000 to 234,000, in europe stocks off earlier highs you did have a gdp report out of uk, it was weaker-than-expected ft 1

. >> this budget exists somewhere over the rainbow where the dreams of nick mulvaney and paul ryan andhe koch brothers really do come true. of course, these dreams are a nightmare for the average working american. >> when you add it all up, the trump budget is comic book villain bad. just like comic books, it relies on fantasy to make the numbers work. >> this is a budget that is immoral and that will cause an enormous amount of pain for the most vulnerable people in our nation. >> doa. >>> coming up next, continuing coverage of president trump's first overseas trip. >> president trump wrapping up the visit to rome and meeting pope francis at the vatican. we will have more on the two leaders who have not always seen eye to eye. >>> and we learn new details about the man p behibehind the g in manchester. we will have a live report from manchest manchester. keep it here everybody. the battle has begun. evony: the king's return. download now. >>> this morning, president trump meets pope francis at the vatican at the vatican. despite clark in the past, the two find common ground. >>> learn

this is nick mulvaney updating donald trump's promises on monday. >> we went down the list, yes, yes,no, no, yes, no, yes, no, no, okay? >> what were the yeses? >> ands no's -- well the stuff that's in the budget. the no's were social security and medicare. he said i promised people on the campaign trail i would not touch their retirement and i would not touch medicare and we don't do it. >> he's denying what we heard him say. >> yes, look, this is a prime example of what i've been saying from the very beginning of the trump administration, which is you really can't trust what they say until they actually do it. and so the president out there on the campaign trail, when he was a candidate said not going to do it, not going to do it, not going to do it and here is this budget that says well, yes, we don't do it. so until congress actually gets through and does the budget process, will we see whether we can take the president at his word as a candidate or do we listen to the budget director, who says no, we're going to cut it. >> at the same time, coreen, we had this montana special ele

nick mulvaney set to defend president trump's budget proposal unveiled yesterday. lawmakers say they're concerned. democrats say drastic cuts make the plan a non-starter while some republicans say there isn't enough money for the military. but mulvaney said the budget is good news for taxpayers. >> we're not kicking anybody off of any program who really needs it. we have plenty of money in this country to take care of the people who need help. we will do that. we don't have enough money to take care of people -- everybody who doesn't need help. what we try and do is look at these programs again through the perspective of the people paying for it. >> shannon: joining me now joint chairman of the committee mike lee from utah. director mulvaney laid out a couple of things. we shouldn't measure our success by how many people are on assistance programs but how many people we get off and talked about the fact if you give a slight increase or keep a budget steady people don't watch it as a cut. it isn't how it works. it sounds like such a radical idea to so many people ou

hey, jim, omb director nick mulvaney he took the bowed yum today at the white house briefing room.icer he is on the trip abroad with the president. in his h opening remarks he said this should be called a taxpayer first budget. he also said some people have criticized this budget for not being compassionate, but to the trump administration it is compassion because compassionate shouldn't be paid to those receiving funds, but those who support and supply federal funds, if you will, meaning the taxpayer. let's break it down for you and look at some of the highlights that mulvaney brought to us today. the first thing, this idea of trump anom nix, the budget relies on the assumption that there will be a sustained economic growth of 3 percent. mulvaney called that trump he nom iks and said unreasonable assumption. the budget assumes only 1.9 percent economic growth. social security, retirement and medicare, the proposed budget doesn't touch either of those and finally let's look at campaign promises. the administration is touting the budget as one that keeps campaign promises, increasin

the white house budget director nick mulvaney pushed back today. if you are 30 years old and you a are watching this or you're sitting here you have never had a job as an adult in a healthy american economy. it's either been a recession or a slow sluggish economy at less than 2 percent growth. p if tu don't like your job you can quit because you know you can ear job. pu get laid off you know you can go and start your own company. these are the opportunities people forget about. >> president trump is in roam tonight ahead of his visit with pope francis. the two men have clashed over a range of issues from immigration to climate claing. however each has denounced religiously inspired violence and have demanded muslim leaders take a greater stand in ruling out if i nationalism. italy is the third stop on the president's first oversees trip. back here in shall what ton there are some new developments into the investigation of russia's meddling into the 2016 network. president trump has hired attorney mark cas wits to deal with the independent counsel.

i want to play what the director of the office of management and budget nick mulvaney said a few monthsbout the priorities of this administration. let's watch. >> regarding the question as to climate change, i think the president was straightforward, we're not spending money on that any more. we consider that to be a waste of your money to go out and do that. that's a specific tie to his campaign. >> and the white house set up this dichotomy between policies relating to climate and job growth. there are clean energy jobs and that sector is growing, is it not? >> is that to me? >> that's to you, steven. >> on the jobs being created, they're in fossil fuel industry, we're seeing massive increases of people working in oil and gas industry. by the way, donald trump fulfilled one of his promises where he said he would rebuild the coal industry in america. we have seen 45,000 increased jobs since donald trump took office. i traveled around to a lot of coal towns in america that were decimated by obama's regulations that just destroyed communities and families. this is the kind of cost that we

one thing nick mulvaney was right about. if we can't get our economy growing we've got to get this economy growing. we've got to add jobs. we've got to make sure that without a growing economy, you're never really gonna take care of the huge debt problem. >> sandra: the budget director speaking at the white house earlier, trying to clear up some of this. simon, when you look at the proposed cuts over the next ten year, $616 billion come from medicade, children's insurance programs. $193 billion food stamp.$143 bi financial aid. do you object to any of this? >> well, two points. matt said something i want to respond to which is that, you know, we tried this strategy that donald trump is proposing in the bush administration. we had big tax cuts and defense increases. what we ended up with was a great recession, financial collapse. we're trying exactly the same economic strategy again. i worry that we'll end up with the same results. in terms of the spending cuts, they disproportionately fall on trump voters and people watching

you a little glimpse behind the curtain of how things unfold here at the white house sometimes, nick mulvaneyas holding a conference call to brief us all on the so-called wins in the budget when some prankster put the call on hold and increasingly loud patriotic music began to override the call and the whole thing sort of devolved into a catastrophe. >> jon: at least you got your patriotic fix this morning. >> as to be all. >> jon: john roberts, thank you. >> jenna: hopefully we won't be interrupted and our next interview. former house speaker newt gingrich, i'm so curious as to your take on this. whether or not you think man, i wish i was back on capitol hill, how to fix these issues, or whether you think, man, i'm so glad i'm not on capitol hill anymore. what's your take on how you see a couple of these dramas playing out? whether it's health care, the budget, or tax reform? how do you see republicans behaving with your assessment? >> i think it's pretty normal. they are getting use to a new president, they're getting used to a new role. they're now the governing majority. there used to bei

nick mulvaney says it's not true.roposed budget to replace some fencings ' there already to build a wall. we are building this now. there is money in this deal to build this to replace this. that's what we got in this and that's what the democrats don't want you to know. this stuff is going up now, why in because the president wants to make the country more safe. the patients with the budget battle may be wearing thin because he tweeted this this morning, our government needs a shutdown in september to fix this mess. a hearing comes weeks after a man was dragged off a united we're going to elementary you what the company ceo said to members of congress next. have you ever seen this a human fuse ball tournament. they used their own quick nimble fancy foot work and long tubes to play. trr more than 100 people playing at once. >> that looks like a workout. you get a little bit of everything. i'll guess so. car sales going in reverse in april american auto makers ford if i at, chrysle and gm all reporting a huge drop in s

you're going to see nick mulvaney come out publicly about statements of the budget.e going to see him testify on wednesday before the house in the budget committee and the senate. and thursday you'll all hear treasury secretary stev mnuchin testify about the budget. and the key here is that the trump administration complained on a promise to make america great again, so it's probably a good guess that we'll see a continuation of that theme and keeping the president's promise to do that. liz: adam, how likely is any part of the white house budget to take effect? they usually don't gavel it in; right? >> yeah. no. this you might just say this is the opening shot. this is the way you negotiate. it's like the tax reform outline. the 15% rate. i can tell you right now that while the administration insists the corporate tax rate needs to be at 15%, that's a negotiating point and people on the hill, the elected officials on the hill look at it as such. the same with the budget. when they get this, they will look at it as a negotiating beginning. liz: adam shapiro live from

and the president's agenda moving forward here at home, trump budget director nick mulvaney announcing the administration is getting away from the quote crazy stuff. former president barack obama prioritized to fight climate change, cutting the rate on future spending of entitlements and adding funding for defense and for border defense. all right. well, british prime minister teresa may increasing the terror threat level from severe to critical. and warning a further attack may be coming. musicians bruno mars, katy perry, ed sheeran have overseas concerts coming up this weekend. they draw the same young crowd. should their attendees be concerned? we're going to talk about this. also, sheer panic as children run for their lives and jumping the railing after a suicide bomber detonated at a concert in london. what is the best way to handle a situation like this if it were to happen here? the navy seal who killed osama bin laden has been in some tight spots. rob o'neill is here with some answers that may save your life. he's coming up ♪ you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast-acti

republicans spent those eight years being able to, you know, stick to their principles, you know, nick mulvaney sticking to the absolutist budget kind of situation. now they're in a position where they're in charge. they have to fund the government. they have to raise the debt limit. they have to do the things that they could always blame obama on. and it looks like what they did here was cave a little bit on the principles so they could get the political win. >> to your point, mick mulvaney who considered themselves reformers now has a boss who tells him i don't want to touch that stuff. >> >> just in speaking to trump supporters in the past week or so about this specifically because i was curious where they were coming down, i found a lot of forgiveness and a lot of leeway and a lot of giving hem the benefit of the doubt. this is the guy who knows how to do the deal and he's decided doing it later is the way to do it. now he's also the guy who said we're going to try to push this health care thing again wherein this town most people would have said don't do that. they did get it over the line

committee hearing yesterday when senator bernie sanders began questioning white house budget director nick mulvaneytion's proposed 2018 budget. take a look. >> bottom line is, tell me -- let me get back to one question. >> sure. >> why do you think the walton family needs a $52 billion tax break. >> you're basing that on the only detail we have. >> the appeal of the estate tax. >> if we want to have a talk about why we're doing that. >> tell me. >> ordinary people are paying more. >> ordinary people do not have a wealth of $128 billion. >> the average increase across this nation. >> you're not answering the question. the question is -- answer the question. the wentiest family in america gets a $52 billion tax break as a result of the appeal of the estate tax. tell why that's good when you cut medicaid and you cut programs for kids. >> we don't cut medicaid. we or talking about repealing obamacare. the cbo number you agreed could be wrong -- >> i didn't agree to that at all. >> the back and forth didn't end until the senator's time expired. director mulvaney i guess saved by the bell. >> sanders get

bolster the claim and campaign promise that they're serious about building a wall, budget direct ore nick mulvaney said on tuesday. >> we are building this now. there is money in this deal to build several hundreds of millions of dollars of this to replace this. >> so we decided to check that out, we sent gary tubman to the border construction site. he is pointing to a cane link fence saying that was like this flimsy border protection that they were rebuilding and making into a much sturdier fencing. it's in sunland park, new mexico. here is some of what he found. >> in addition to the trains chugging along this border, one thing we noticed is this chain link fence which a child on the mexican side was climbing, a fence the budget director actually pointed out. >> this doesn't stop drugs. it doesn't stop criminals from crossing the border. in fact, it doesn't stop anything from crossing the border. >> secretary sean spicer noticed it. >> you see a chain link fence, that is literally down there now. we are able to go in there and instead of having a chain link fence replace wit that bollerred wall.

. >> after you voted no, after the president had basically sent a threat to you courtesy of nick mulvaneye president say to you? >> nothing. >> and what did that original threat sound like? >> it sounded like the thing that doesn't make any member of congress's day, you know. if you don't do this, i'm going to do this. when that comes from the president of the united states, that doesn't make one's day. but that's all past history. now we're looking at a bill that i think advances to the senate and we will have a whole new debate in the senate. that's why i think it is so important if you are on the winning side of the debate, if this happens to be what you agreed on, you take a breath and agree there are more bites of the apple on this thing. if you are on the opposite side of the equation, you need to take a breath and say, wait a minute, nothing has changed. the senate said we're going to put the breaks on this thing. we'll see what they do and if they do something, it's going to come back to the house for yet another debate. >> but congressman, this is interesting because that is a nu

. >> nick mulvaney trying to defend the president's desire for shut down despite the fact the administrationeached compromise. >> isn't that what the american people want? they want their government to work and pass budges that the can be a compromise that both sides can agree on? how can a shut down be good? >> that's exactly what i think they want and exactly what we have given to this with this agreement. my point to you in response to a couple of questions is that, the president wants to see washington better. get better. get fixed. change the way it does business. >> isn't it better this way -- >> it is, which is why it is so frustrating to hear the democrats say they won and we lost. >> mulvaney said some of the money was going to quote new wall. but it is really just beefing off existing fencing. >> you can call it new wall, replacement, maintenance, call it whatever you want to. the president's priority is to secure the southern border. >> quick to bounce on the shut down talk. >> we don't like government shut downs and we avoid them at all costs. >> this rare episode of compromise]

you mentioned nick mulvaney at the white house press briefing. ifferent than the press briefings we've seen recently. >> it was almost like the reporters were calling out for a long lot of sean spicer walked away. mulvaney were there to talk to the press. sean spicer this time walked away. >> message was this will be about the budge. this will be about nothing other than the budget. here the information and we'll leave it at that? >> right a lot of times even more news is made now from the podium when sean spicer will answer questions an lot of questions people have probably a lot of people were asking questions also about the shut down witness president minute all of these different things, and it's just -- it really frustrating doesn't help witness relationship witness media when sean does something like that. >> questions about health care as well republicans are still trying to have enough votes democrats say they don't have enough votes at this point. counting heads right now to see if we have enough votes. >> the president is get intimately

we're going to hear some testimony from the administration later in the week, the omb director nick mulvaney. a couple things to watch for. first of all, medicaid. this budget includes deep cuts to the medicaid program. we, of course, know that president trump campaigned on not cutting medicare and social security. medicaid, of course, the program that takes care of health care for poorer low income americans. that is something that is likely to cause problems with republicans up here. we already know in the context of the health care debate the senate, there are many republican senator who's represent states where they've expanded medicaid. this could potentially be a real problem. another thing to watch, peter, the office of drug control policy. there are some grants in there we're already seeing bipartisan opposition to cuts to that based on of course, the opioid crisis. peter. >> kasie hunt on capitol hill today where even with the president out of town, the lawmakers continue their work. thank you. we are awaiting a joint statement by president trump and the israeli prime minister benja

. >>> in a moment from the white house that caught our eye, budget director nick mulvaney just finishedn budget agreement when members of the press were expecting sean spicer to take questions. instead he made a quick exit. >> thank you very much. >> will you e-mail where that is from exactly so we can identify location? >> sean. >> sean. >> sean, come on, sean. >> what about the putin call? >> no one leave. sit and wait. let's see. >> he said he's not coming back. >> that was nbc's peter alexander who went looking for spicer. obviously he wasn't able to find him. when he came back, the press secretary did not give any response. >> an interesting development there. didn't even offer an explanation. >>> up next on "morning joe," senator elizabeth warren is going to join joe and mika as she chastises -- and steny hoyer discussesing the republican health care overhaul. later republican congressman who took a call from the president himself pushing him on the health care fix, but still has concerns about pre-existing conditions coverage. all they a head on "morning how well ou mow fast. the

the trump budget exists somewhere over the rainbow where the dreams of nick mulvaney, paul ryan and the koch brothers really do come true. of course, these dreams are a nightmare for the average working american. we expect the trump budget will make deep cuts to the national institute of health and centers for disease control. let me ask how many people in america want to cut cancer research when it's done such good? well, president trump evidently does. it's his budget. the kneecap research that develops new cures, damaging our ability to continue to prevent the outbreak of disease. we're all living longer and healthier, in part because of this research. do we want to stop it, cut it back so we can give tax breaks to wealthy people who god bless them are doing great already. we expect the trump budget to slash programs like meals on wheels. we even read in the newspaper this morning that the head of the freedom caucus said that for him even some of these cuts were too great. snap benefits, helping making sure no kid goes to bed hungry in america. this is america. we've always done this

on c-span2, the director of the omb, nick mulvaney briefs reporters on president trump's proposed budget for 2018. on c-span three, a house hearing on the border adjustment fax and u.s. economic growth. >>> next, nina olson, the national taxpayer advocate discusses ways the irs is fighting fraud and taxpayer id theft. she also looked at ways to improve irs responsiveness to taxpayer needs. speaking in front of a house ways and means subcommittee, this is an hour. >> subcommittee will come to order. welcome to the ways and means oversight subcommittee hearing on irs reforms, lessons learned from the national taxpayer advocate. it's been nearly 20 years since congress seriously considered reforms to the irs. i'm hopeful that we embark on a new effort to improve the agency that can work hand in hand with members on both sides of the aisle. working together i'm confident we can find common ground and make progress. i think it's important to emphasize our effort to reform the irs should not be seen as a punishment or criticism of the average agency or employee. instead, they were recognized t

that budget proposal, democrats attacking the cuts and nih, something president's budget director nick mulvaney >> we haven't spent nearly enough time focusing our attention on the people who pay the taxes. i got a couple questions yesterday, i know i will today is about compassion. compassion needs to be on both sides, you have to have compassion for focus receiving the zwunds and for the folks who are paying it. >> let's get more on the budge process with hoyer. it's good to see you thank you for joining us. >> thank you good to be with you. >> what were your first thoughts when you saw the budge released? >> it's not real. and frankly my first thoughts were secured by every republican who made a comment on the budget, this is not a real document, it is not a real offer it's not a starting point. it's a budget that mike from idaho, a former speaker of the house says he couldn't vote for it it's dead on arrival. so it's not a real document, maybe mr. as a rule main any on president trump's idea on how they're going to form their tax cuts but it's not a real document in terms of our capability.

this is the first budget done by a new administration, and omb director nick mulvaney had not been on board yet. so at this particular this particular issue is something that we are discussing, and we are thinking that going forward there is a more wholistic approach this. >> i am glad to hear that, because a lot of of the tyiiger grants are small in nature in regards to the other costs that are going to be greater costs for any project to be completed and in any case these tiger grants are to be appreciated and highly competitive and only the best of the projects are funded with the tiger grants themselves, but i am glad that to hear that it is a work in progress, and rest assured we would love to provide additional input and advice as you have come to make these decision ss this particular case. it is a very good series of projects, and we have seen some real benefits within the rural state, and with that, that is all that i have. >> and if you will allow me to follow up for a second. >> sure. >> one of the advantages is for tiger grants is that it will help to leverage other money,

on c-span2, the director of the omb, nick mulvaney briefs reporters on president trump's proposed budget for 2018. on c-span three, a house hearing on the border adjustment fax and u.s. economic growth. >>> next, nina olson, the national taxpayer advocate discusses ways the irs is fighting fraud and taxpayer id theft. she also looked at ways to improve irs responsiveness to taxpayer needs. speaking in front of a house ways and means subcommittee, this is an hour. >> subcommittee will come to order. welcome to the ways and means oversight subcommittee hearing on irs reforms, lessons learned from the national taxpayer advocate.

. >> nick mulvaney yesterday, i think with ang gugs king was asked, it's your testimony that cuts tocaid won't hurt elderly, disabled, children. he said yeah, i believe that's true, it won't. how can you cut $800 some million from medicaid and those people not hurt. he said well, i think there are efficiencies in the system that we're pushing out and it won't hit these people the way you say it will. my point is where are the republicans standing up to donald trump when they see their party being lit on fire? what's the benefit of standing beside him when that happens? i was listening to mark sanford yesterday. he said 3% growth is a fantasy. we ought to say that out loud. that's a lie. it's not going to happen. it means this budget doesn't make any sense. he also talked about the incident with the guy in montana choking and body slamming the reporter. he said there's a weirdness out there when i see my friends and colleagues in the republican party coming out and defending this guy. this is the first amendment. we're supposed to be conservatives that defend the constitution. this is

steve mnuchin and nick mulvaney testify on capitol hill. >> that does it for us on this jam packed wednesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin and louis burgdorf. "morning joe" starts right now. >> this week he's met with muslim leaders, jewish politicians and now the head of the catholic church. president trump will soon wrap up his quick visit to the vatican where he and pope francis met for the first time after publicly sparring on a number of issues, but there is no salvation from washington where the former cia chief gave the most compelling testimony today on russia's potential influence on the trump campaign. all of it coming as the terrorist attack in england raises threat levels dwide. we'll go live to manchester. welcome to "morning joe" on this wednesday, may 24th. along with joe, willie and me, we have veteran columnist and msnbc contributor mike barnicle. washington anchor for "bbc world news america," katty kay, and co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei with us. we're going to begin with the testimony from the former director of the central intellige

public director nick mulvaney says it's part of a whole new approach to spending. >> we're no longer of programs or the number of people on those programs. but by the number of people we help get off of those programs. >> the budget also allocates $2.6 billion for border security. mulvaney saying the border wall is one of the president's priorities. we'll see you guys in a little bit. brian: i like when he was talking about government waste. he says, well, when it comes to the epa, why y are you cutting so much? and he says, well, do we really need a global warming musical? and there was money set aside for a global warming musical. steve: you don't want to see that? brian: you're right. i'm in the minority. steve: the president able to explain every single question to the administration's point of view was spectacular. brian: you know why? i think he wrote it. steve: i think he did too. he had an extensive answer. brian: and, by the way, it's great when your director is really good at math. i prefer that as opposed to social studies, which is also valuable. president trump just wrap

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nick mulvany will testify before the budget committee last week. we spoke with a capitol hill reporter for details. shutt is a reporter at cq roll call. piece, mulvaney to sell trump's budget request to the hill, you wrote that the testimony by mulvaney will be eventful, rather eventful is what you write. what are you expecting? >> when the white house releases its budget request we're going to get spending in the fiscal

nick mulvany will testify before the budget committee last week. we spoke with a capitol hill reporter for details. shutt is a reporter at cq roll call. piece, mulvaney to sell trump's budget request to the hill, you wrote that the testimony by mulvaney will be eventful, rather eventful is what you write. what are you expecting? >> when the white house releases its budget request we're going to get spending in the fiscal year for mandatory programs like medicaid and social security and details on defense spending on domestic spending programs. we got an idea in mid-march when the white house released its skinny budget about how trump wants to handle fiscal 18 spending and increase defense spending by $54 billion in decrease nondefense domestic spending by an equal about amount. the budget we will see will have a lot more details. >> this is the fiscal year 18 with the deadline of september 30 for the end of this fiscal year. how does the release of the budget affect the process? >> this year, typically the president releases his budget request in the first february monday but new administrations are delayed because they have to stand up a cabinet. we