and i and the head of the counterterrorism center nick rasmussen walked them through the threats. and we were really there to convene and educate. since then you have seen companies like facebook launched initiatives like peer to peer that are encouraging college students and others to create content that will counter this message. and look, we're never going to be is get it from government it can't come from us. it has to come from communities and voices-- i'm not going to be a great messenger to the 21 year old or younger who is disaffected that they're aiming to target. so again two things. three things, tactically we have to keep working hard, because it's hard law enforcement, intel prosecution work to bring these cases so that innocent lives aren't lost. two that tactical success, strategically we have to beat them where they are which means working with a coalition to defeat them so they lose territory in syria and iraq. and then three, we have to figure out a way, cuz look, fundamentally this group once you get over there, it's raping people as a political tool. they are m