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if a band were to pick a fight with nickelback, you're always going to look good in the exchange because[laughter] he could never discredit them as much as they've discredited themselves. they've been terrible, and it should be said. guy: in some cases, not all cases. deirdre, about journalism, is going after the concept of anonymous sources and actually more of an undermining of journalist than yelling fake news or having a crowd boo at reporters if trying to tell the american people that all anonymous sources are fake, that to me seems like a more serious implication about journalism. >> yeah. i actually hadn't thought of it that way, but i agree with you. going back to what you were saying, there are tons of people who are willing to speak on backgrounds but certainly do not want to be misquoted. now, i agree, that is a big part of our pipeline, right? at least it lets you know the best of the journalism senses, at least it lets you know what to chase. guy: if you protect one of your anonymous sources who actually tells america i was the nonnow source, and i'm -- anonymous source, and

is he like the new nickelback of the jet set? >> the backlash has been there for a while. just did an interview with "new york" magazine address the backlash for the first time. kasie doesn't like dave, nick doesn't like him, i gather sam doesn't like him. but they do, along with bob costa and others go to every fish show. >> that's not true. i am not in that crowd. >> first of all, i'm not even going to get into that dave matthews band debate. more importantly, really, guys? really? bob costa, jake sherman, that's it? i mean i was sitting in my living room this morning under the cool shade of my banana tree. a child of the 20th century. and you don't mention me? i'm in a damn bad condition now. i had the time but you did not have the inclination. so what do i do? do i run like an antelope out of control or sink my toes into the ground and set a different course? ♪ i thought we had it simple. i thought we had a band. my heart is breaking, guys. my heart is breaking. that will do it for me this hour. kasie hunt picks things up right now. kasie, e tu, bruta? >> i'm so sorry,

is this like a creed/nickelback backlash? >> am i wrong?> yeah, you're wrong. >> i don't know. >> it's the fans of dave matthews. who we recall as the big fans of dave matthews from high school and college and, of course, willie, have turned us against him. >> is this what we're really talking about today? >> can we please move on. >> i have to say, willie, you know, alex says we're circling the drain. >> we're down the drain. we're not circling. >> you know, i did not for some reason like steely dan when i was in high school and college, but i like him now. some great music. >> okay. >> i'm going to help alex and try to pull us up out of the drain. mika, this is for you. chris collins of new york has been charged with insider trader and lying to investigators alleged to have worked with his son to avoid significant losses on a inesthavestment. prosecutors say collins was at a congressional picnic at the white house last year when he learned that they received bad news about a drug trial for the company's only product. he served on a board