to take it to mtv and have it become a kids show, which is, you know, all mtv really is anymore: nickelodeon. so, you know, that really wasn't a hard decision, you know? we knew that because they were airing the pythons, that still had that kind of material that was just as edgy as anything we've ever done, if not, edgier. there was a moment where you were ushered into a room, i'm sure, to watch the pilot. what was your gut reaction when you first saw it? brilliant; i thought it was funny. and to me, you know, funny is really the common denominator. you can do a lot of shows that have expression, but bottom line, it has to be funny. not only was it funny, you know, it was so unique and groundbreaking, provocative, you know, all the things that are in our "mission statement," you know, for the network: a unique point of view, intelligent, and very, very funny. and we looked and immediately knew that we had a hit on our hands. there was no mistake about it. but what's fascinating is, we went through a phase of-- because then what happened was that the--- and i don't remember who-- what sort of