nickerson gardens was the most dangerous public housing project in watts in 1985 when i started this work. is right on the edge of compton and that area was calm as best we can tell, it was ground zero for the american crack epidemic. and i will confess that i have not had a great deal of success getting people to voluntarily go wander around in those places. it is actually not nearly as dangerous as people think it is. one of the things you he realized after it while is that they don't care about you. you are not a threat. you don't actually have much to offer. the worst thing that could happen is that you might get robbed or catch a stray bullet or something like that but that kind of stuff is actually really rare. they hurt each other. they are concerned about their -- they are angry at each other. the rest of us don't matter so you can actually get away with it pretty easily especially once you get your feet under you. people don't want to do it and again sort of as this is a recurring theme. you don't really -- need new people to care about. there are lots of people who care abo