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. >> reporter: nicky solis went head to head against on rachel last night, saying anyone who thinks harris isn't progressive enough isn't paying attention. >> the narrative that was being spun wasn't necessarily true. >> reporter: but now, as the black lives matter movement dominates the national spotlight, can harris win over reluctant prerogatives. >> what i'm not sure about is whether her ideology has evolved or she knows the right talking points are to be more progressive? >>> voters got their first look at the team of biden and harris today. so did some of the pundits. joining us now, larry gersten. let's talk about how odd today's appearance was. very different than what we've seen other potential nominees come out with their vp picks. >> welcome to covid-19 and the way it's going to run all these campaigns. you're not going to see a lot of people. you're going to see a lot of masks and the energy is going to have to come from the candidates them selves. if you're with a crowd, you draw off that. that's what president trump does so well. this time, all the candidates are going to hav

case in point, nicki solis is the deputy public defender in san francisco and she and kamala harris wereal adversaries when harris was d.a. solace said that for a prosecutor, harris was unusually progressive. >> when it comes to alternatives for incarceration and when it comes to mass incarceration, that has a desperate impact on communities of color, it is important for folks to understand that senator harris, when she was district attorney in san francisco, was very progressive. whether or not that harms her is another story. >> reporter: this being the bay area, there are plenty of people who believe that she is not progressive enough. like david campos, who is the head of the san francisco democratic party, former member of the police commission, he points to harris's declining to get involved in some officer-involved shootings. >> she did not turn out to be from our perspective the progressive prosecutor that she promised to be when many of us supported her. i believe so, i believe that she did not do enough to hold law enforcement accountable. >> reporter: nonetheless, campos said