against someone who infringes their patent innovation, it's been use edd with charles goodyear, nicola tesla. >> what do you mean used? >> the term is use edd. >> they would be included. yes. and it's part of a rhetorical push to try to weaken patents. because when people infringe your property rights, just like you have to call a policeman to defend your home you have to contact a lawyer to bring a lawsuit to stop them. the same way your ability to use your home is your ability to kick people off if you don't want them in your home. >> there's a definition of patent troll anyone who's sueing me for patent infringement is a patent troll that's the most sure fire way to define it, we have to keep in mind that this legislation that limits access the access of inventors and patent owners to the courtroom hurts the little guys, not the big guys. they can overcome those obstacles, big companies, they have the money to enforce their rights. it's the little -- the garage inventors, the little guys who can't afford to enforce their rights, and that's why some big companies are behind this bush becau