nicolae ceausescu who went to north korea and most people were shocked -- but they were impressed.y said, we can do this in romania. that was the moment when the crowd turned against the dictator and the facade of dictatorship collapsed and from then on, a helicopter took him from the top of that building to an area north of bucharest. it was there a few days later where he was executed. brian: and his wife? robert: his wife was executed. the decision was made by several reform communists who were fallen into disfavor. among them was a man who had worked for -- a stalinist in his youth, who worked for nicolae nicolae ceaucescu until 1987. talked to him about the decision to have him executed. he told me, we decided that they both had to be executed or else they could have gathered the security and intelligence around them and we might have had bloodshed going on for months. we had to stop the chaos. then i asked a naive question, did you have to execute her? and he looked at me like i was a fool and he said he was almost more important to execute her then to execute him. brian: wha