with us is nicolas cary, the ceo of blockchain. >> good evening. >> you said it's an anti-competitiveti-competitive, that seems like apple is looking to get into the payment space as well. >> yeah, that wouldn't surprise me one bit. apple has telegraphed they'll do something on top of the hundreds of millions of credit cards they have on their system. bitcoin represents a major threat to any revenue model they may try to build. anything they do with credit cards is at no innovative. bitcoin is. it removes the fees, there are no charge backs, removes any privacy concerns. apple has a track record of anything that starts to compete with major product of theirs. they did this to google. they took out google maps and prevented g-mail from being on the apple platform. so i'm not surprised. i think in the future, apple will come around. obviously, you're seeing an enormous ry action -- reaction to this news by bitcoin enthusiastics around the world. >> what is your option at this point? >> for the time being if you want a good mobile solution, android is the way to go. there are hundreds of