among them the former french president nicolas sarkozy, who told journalists this was not a time forics, not a time to talk about any elections. it was a time for all people of france to come together. yesterday, he had said we will continue to write as we have always written, we will continue to live as we have always lived. but just look at all the main developments so far with this report from emily buchanan. >> reporter: france is still reeling from the bloodshed, and today, more shooting. this is the city of montrouge just south of the capital. the emergency services flocked here after a man wearing a flak jacket opened fire with an automatic rifle. a policewoman was killed and a street cleaner was seriously injured. the interior minister rushed to the scene, but cautioned against making links to wednesday's attack on the satirical magazine. the president francois hollande said the country had been struck in the heart and called the attack on "charlie hebdo" an act of exceptional barbarism. in a show of unity, nicolas sarkozy said it was an attack on democracy itself. >> transla

today, the former wrench president, nicolas sarkozy was invited back to the eddie's a powerless -- todayhe former french president, nicolas sarkozy, was invited back to the elysees palace. >> this is a declaration of war on civilization, and the responsibility of civilization is to defend itself. >> candles and layers have been laid close to the offices of charlie hebdo. it will defy attackers next week publishing's special edition with a print run of one million copies. tonight, the eiffel tower dimmed its lights in tribute to those who had died. >> muslim leaders in france have condemned the killings in the strongest possible language. president hollande said freedom of speech had come under attack, but nothing would divide the nation and its ideals, and yet the attack on charlie hebdo has raised fears of a backlash against muslims in france, which has the largest muslim community in western europe. we have reports on the response among the muslim community. >> the word suburb is often loaded with negative association. in the minds of some wrench, these states can be breeding grounds o

french president francis hollande chaired a crisis meeting with ministers and his predecessor nicolas sarkozy who heads the main opposition party. let's go to jacky rowland, joining us from the place de la republique in paris, where thousands gathered to hold the vigil. you are there right now on this day of mourning. give us a sense of what the mood is like there? > you may be able to hear that the two minutes ended and people are clapping. it was subdued and emotional. people stood in a circle for two minutes, linking hands. standing in a circle it's importantly the statue is of the simple marial. the symbol of the french republic around the statue. around the statue freedom, equality, the three planks of french society. it is people celebrating solidarity unity and determination as they stood in remembrance of the 12 killed on wednesday. >> indeed this is an attack that shocked the country and reverberated around the world as well. earlier on we saw french president francis hollande there, also asking the two minutes of silence. he has had a security meeting as well with his cabinet. what

nicolas sarkozy, the former president who francis hollande defeated in elections in 2012. he is really putting his money where his mouth is inviting him along, making it clear that now is not the time for party politics almost for a unity government. sarcozy spoke after the meeting, calling the work that of a fanatic and supported the president's decision to use every tool at the disposal of the authorities to track down the gunmen. >> thank you. that's al jazeera's jacky rowland reporting from paris. people have started to gather ahead of a minute's silence, which is supposed to happen at 12 local time an hour or so in paris. let's speak to a security consultant, live with us from paris, and good to have you with us. we want to talk about the latest we know the investigation. sex, according to the police. two pictures are on the run. they were named after one of them left their i.d. in the vehicles they were in yesterday, wednesday. what does this suggest to you about the level of preparedness of this attack. how well organised was the attack? >> well it's surprising beca

nicolas sarkozy has been speaking.ve had tweets this morning from marine le pen, talking about maybe a referendum to reinstitute the death penalty. the hardline on justice and law and order already beginning to manifest in the french political circles. we will bring you the headlines as they come in. let me bring you the other headlines we are watching as well. standard charter is said to be closing its individual equities business and will eliminate over 200 jobs. the bank aims to cut a further 2000 jobs as it looks for cost cuts of around $400 million this year. operations in equities, equity research, will come to an end. standard chartered shares had a rough 2014, falling the most in years. minutes from december's federal reserve open market committee meeting have revealed agreements amongst the committee that the u.s. economy will continue to grow and add jobs. some members have concerns that inflation could be consistently below their 2% target. the minutes confirmed janet yellen's statement that interest rate in

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inviting his open rival, nicolas sarkozy, leader of the opposition unp party, former french president defeat in elections in 2012 by francis hollande to attend the community cabinet meeting, demonstrating that this was a time for political forces to work together not a time for party politics the the message of unity and working together is something we can expect more and more. he will be stressing, seeking to emphasise what unites people in france than tearing them apart. the diverse society, a significant population of 5 million people here in france almost 10% of those are from north african descent. people the children of immigrants from north africa the grandchildren of immigrants from former french colonies in north africa it's a diverse operation. the president will try to emphasise the values of what people hold in common rather than the differences dividing the committee. it's significant at demonstrations ral yits and vigils that we have seen in paris and other cities and that different communities happened. we have seen old people, and all different minorities taking part

as former president nicolas sarkozy visited president hollande at the palace. here a representative of the local muslim community comes to pay his respects. >> translator: during this week the most important thing is to think of the families. there will be a time for reflection, but what's important today is that there are families who have lost a loved one. >> it says here that perhaps it is still too early for analysis, that the pain is still too raw. hala gorani cnn, paris. >>> coming up more on the massive manhunt under way for the two suspects the two brothers in paris. we'll have a live report and a look at the mood right now as paris mourns. stay with us. your eyes really are unique. in fact, they depend on a unique set of nutrients. that's why there's ocuvite to help protect your eye health. as you age your eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite is a vitamin made just for your eyes from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. ocuvite has a unique formula that's just not found in any leading multivitamin. your ey

and then he will meet with former president nicolas sarkozy. it's going to be a very delicate operation for him in the aftermath of this attack to see how he responds politically and what he puts in place. how delicate an issue do you think that is for hollande? how dangerous is it for him politically? >> well for the moment it would be of course cynical to say so but what happened yesterday, the tragedy of yesterday is a plus for president hollande. he appeared on french television as presidential. he was calm he was determined. he called on the frenchmen to be united and determined in not giving in to any sign of weakness. so for the moment, he is the strong man in charge. and of course all will depend on the rapidity of the action of the police. i mean will the terrorists be quickly neutralized in the coming hours, if not in the coming days? the french need to be reassured, to be convinced that their state is both strong and efficient in the fight against terrorism. >> certainly. and of course at this point, now these two main suspects these

in a show of unity, his long-standing political opponent nicolas sarkozy said it was an attack on democracy itself. >> translator: civilized people irrespective of their beliefs, should unite in the face of this barbarism, this fanatical barbarism. this is a war that has been declared against civilization, and the responsibility of the civilization is to defend itself and that's what we have decided to do. >> reporter: france is on its highest level of alert and a massive security operation has been under way all night. this was in the early hours where police commandos raided a building. one of the suspects hamyd mourad is believed to be from here. he has now surrendered at a police station. but two other suspects the brothers cherif and said kouachi, are still armed and dangerous. this is cherif from a news report ten years ago. the brothers have been seen in a car with registration plates masked. police fear they may now be heading back into paris, possibly determined to die in another bloody attack. >> translator: these individuals were known to the intelligence services, and because th

fired a cartoonist, maurice sinet, at one point, because he drew something that was critical of nicolas sarkozyh president's son, who was getting married to a jewish woman. and this was deemed to be antisemitic. so is there a double standard, where this guy gets fired for that but then has no problem publishing cartoons that are seen as making fun of the prophet muhammad? >> there is a double standard, and i think that is a problem. though i will say this _ i do not think that mocking a religious doctrine is the same as mocking the memory of 6 million people who were killed during the second world war. france does have hate speech laws, and among them, holocaust denial is a criminal offense. >> right. >> and i have for a long time spoken out against those laws. i do think that we have to get rid of hate speech laws in europe. and it's given some muslims a reason for accusing france of exercising double standards, because on the one hand, how is it possible that charlie hebdo can do what they are doing being taken to court and acquitted, and then you have a french comedian who is saying somethin

>>> earlier the french president held a crisis meeting with his cabinet and former president nicolas sarkozy >>> well, the sadness and shock in france has been echoed around the world. >> reporter: fro across the globe came one voice. france - you are not alone. vigils held in cities near and far from the america's asia. with condolences, condemnation. >> those who carry out senseless attacks. we will stand with the people of france. >> the attack at this time is an act of terror against the news organization, and the freedom to report. this is unforgiveable. for reasons we cannot forgive such cowardly attacks and condemn them. >> obviously this is a horrific atrocity, absolute atrocity. this. >> in major european companies, they were quick to show solidarity. >> and we stand united with the french people against terrorism and this threat to our value, the rule of law, democracy, and it's essential that we defend those values today and day. >> reporter: muslim nationsar spoking out, posting this message saying: nations. >> it was a horrendous unjustifiable and cold-blooded crime. it was also

. >> nicolas sarkozy was asked to participate in the meetings. to block and unite with these values, unity, uniteding together with all forms, that is what our response must be. we must unite against this and we will win because we have all the capacities to believe in ur destiny. several people managed to record video of the attackers as they fled the building. >> heavily armed gunmen burst into a lunchtime editorial meeting in the office of a french is asatirical magazine "charlie hebdo." to gain entrance they asked two maintenance men for the where the offices were and then open fired on them. >> we saw a number of casualtys was very high. >> many in the building ran to the roof. this video shows the attackers as they fled. >> according to a witness they shouted and they said that we've taken revenge against the prophet. >> the gunmen, hooded and masked zreszed in black, speaking in french. during the escape, video captured one of the gunmen executing a policeman as he lay on the ground. approaching the getaway car, a gunman can be seen raisin

we saw the former president nicolas sarkozy leave a few minutes ago. hollande is still there.jamin netanyahu is still there perhaps to say a few words. if you're wondering what the loud music is behind me well it's an entire marching band that just made it here with a very large brass section. so if i'm speaking at a higher volume than you're used to hearing me that is the reason why. the crowd has thinned here. but there is still, as you can see, a party atmosphere. people those who stayed behind finished their sunday evening with some color and some music and having a good time. all right. french president francois hollande is making his way out of the grand synagogue in paris. he won't be there in the synagogue when the israeli prime minister makes his remarks. that wasn't expected however, so that's not unusual. we'll be right back here on cnn with a lot more as we continue our coverage coming to us from the synagogue in paris. just to bring you up to date with more on what we know from paris. it appears as though this may have been the largest march in modern french histo

nicolas sarkozy. dominique strauss-kahn and many others. the catholic church has sued charlie hebdo 14 times and lost every time. the counsel of muslims in france tried unsuccessfully to stop the reprinting of danish cartoons of the prophet muhammad. a bomb attack wrecked the paper's offices in 2011. this followed threats of violence over one edition where they changed the title to "charia hebdo." the following title was love is stronger than hate, but was still provocative. >> a very irreverent approach, to put it mildly. western democracies hold freedom of expression to be an absolutely central pillar of our societies. but at least in germany, there is also, as a very, very central value the idea of the respect for human dignity. have we got the right balance between those two values? >> well, i think it is difficult to talk about values without take into account the social realities in a given country. it is these social realities that really define the way in which groups interact with each other. as a result of the ongoing to crisis in

nicolas sarkozy the individual winner, even went on to say that even though he had been half savagelycharacterized by caricatures, he wanted more caricatures rather than too few. >> in paris and other places, some news organizations have made the decision not to--not to show the cover on television screens, and i'm wondering and i've been wondering since this all happened are we going to get to this place where we can either fall back in what we generally say in news rooms saying this is an editorial choice and when does that editorial choice really become self censorship. that's a line. that's a line. >> yes. >> and each news organization is having to find that line. >> anybody in any media has to deal with it, the news media britain media even in academic you have to be concerned about it on occasion. interestingly enough i think actually the--now dead former editor charb addressed this issue say look, if the french government or people want to censor us saying french muslims have no sense of humor then they're making themselves second class citizens. not us. we should be free to tr

we heard it from the president and the opposition leader nicolas sarkozy, the idea that no stone is left unturned no lead is not being followed and every single resource and force available is being used put on the case. security forces intelligence agencies and the general public as well. at the same time officials have been stressing that they are not going to be giving a blow by blow act of the investigation. it's important that a lot of it will be kept under the radar. partly to ensure security of the public, but also as well not to compromise the investigation, because we are talking about a manhunt. two people understood to be heavily armed, who have killed 12 people 10 of them civilians, two police officers. these people are dangerous. so the task of trying to catch the suspects is very much the top priority of the authorities, of the security forses at the moment. >> yes. that was definitely the message from bernard cazeneuve, the interior minister. we heard from him a few minutes ago. jacky rowland, thank you for bringing us up to date on what is happening in paris. the next edi

former president nicolas sarkozy called it a declaration of war by determined fanatics. muslims heard the gunshots in his bakery on the boulevard. he called the gunmen cowards and barbaric and said... >> i don't think there's enough debate in the muslim community. everyone is in their own corner. normal because they feel threatened. we need to say stop to the barbarians some are trying. the leader said it's time to show kindness to communities to avoid confusion. >> we have to show the values of islam. we need dialogue. >> the fear is the dialogue may be high jacked by extremists on both sides who want to ignite hatred and discrimination rather than having a good conversation about having to deal with dangerous extremism >>> across the street from the newspaper, two students trying to reconcile the violence. in front of the steal, blood-stained sidewalk where gunmen shot a policeman. france talked about growing extremism, but it's time for a new discussion. >> i thought we were being careful. we talk about extremism. >> you know there are gatherings across paris in the l

as former president nicolas sarkozy visited president hollande at the palace.ing unified in its horror here a representative of the local muslim community comes to pay his respects. >> during this week the most important thing is to think of the families. there will be a time for reflection but what's important today is that there are families who have lost a loved one. >> it says here that perhaps it is still too early for analysis that the pain is still too raw. cnn, paris. >> and it does seem that the pain is still too raw. people are still not ready, errol, to be talking about relations between people in muslim communities here and indeed parisians, exactly what changes people can make. they want to mourn for the time being, pay their respects. and as i came to you it's 7:30 here in paris, actually come to the memorial anticipate pay their respects bowing their head reading the messages. so for the time being, people are staying standing defiant and also in solidarity paying their respects for the 12 people who died on that very tragic day, errol. >> it's b

we also saw former president nicolas sarkozy to cheers as one woman screamed out "we love you."ot only unity we saw today, but the divisions that france and thee1 entire world have to deal with. a lot of peoplef3 stage, this is very much a wakeup call and that as a global community, we should look at what is happening here in france. the unity that we have been seeing throughout the entire day, and really try to find the momentum frome1 that to move forward to bring aboutçó an end to the religious hay are tread, and bring about an end to the type of violence that we saw taking place here'c over the last three days, and the type of violence that the extremist orgin&zations like isis have been bringing not just to syria and iraq but to the other regions of the world.q!%m y here and experiencinglp a significantxd rise ioke1 the e1 anti-semitism, and double number of jews here leaving france for israel in 2014 compared to 2013 but alongside wxq1 hren, no don't go. a lot ofe1 what gives france the uniqueness is the diversity of the Ñipopulation. of course the tensions an÷( the conce

nicolas sarkozy banning headscarf, traditional muslim garb. france knows it has a problem. i know we got to go. this is unique because this is the first time of a military assault of this kind happened on a soft target. we've seen lone wolf attacks. this is military trial. they were trained on a very soft target, the question becomes we'll address this later in the show. could it woman here? the debate here in new york and the relationship between the mayor and the police and our mentalities that this country is taking from the administration, an anti-cop mentality so wrong at this time. >> have we already potentially seen it come here? we have the trial beginning with jury select hundred this week of one of the tsarnaev brothers. if you look at radicalization and growth within a country, describing what is happening inside france and paris we're seeing some of that in the caucus ses and in russia and some of those what i call the stan countries. kazakhstan. >> there was free travel by the tsarnaev brothers, back and forth. >> that is something that raises a lot of other --

nicolas sarkozy, the former french president, presided over a ban of the wearing of the full veil, not a ban on head covering but the wearing of the full veil in france. and that irked a lot of muslims. i think it irked a lot of militant muslims far more. but is this retribution specific to france or this the kind of thing where france juz happenstd to have the magazine of chance for the moment? >> i think it's the latter. these kind of radical jihadis have always hated freedom of expression, particularly political satire. there was a danish weekly and there were death threats about that one. you mentioned another one. there is about the core principle of freedom of speech. france has a particular problem which is it has the largest muslim migrant community or home-grown community, i should say, in europe. there's about 5 million, a consequence of its colonial past in algeria and neighboring countries. so france probably has more radical islamist cells than other places. and france has been good at assimilating its immigrants and people who don't look french in the traditional sense. b

the nicolas sarkozy, the conservative opponent of francois holland. marie le pen. far right groups have flourished and are doing very very well. even though this has been a unity rally, marine lepen was not specifically invited. she was told she could come if she wants. she is not here. she and her national fund colleagues are marching in other parts of france they say, but this is also a very very sensitive moment in french domestic poll ticks. in germany they have been having weekly anti-islamic demonstrations demonstrations. >> one other symbol is i think appropriate. i was discussing this with a leader of the jewish community here earlier today. two of the heroes of the supermarket attack one of the jewish men who was killed who had tried to wrestle away the gun, he is a hero. also the young muslim employee from mali who tried to rescue people and successful hid 15 of them. i want to go to hala golani at the end of the route. what are you seeing there? >> well it's an extremely dense crowd, jake and christiane. this is the end point as i was saying minutes ago,

at one point he was safe enough to meet the president of france nicolas sarkozy to talk about youth unemployment. that is pretty incredible? >> erin exactly. but the problem is the french need to catch him committing a crime, either abroad or locally. otherwise what do you do? they have french passports. you can't expel them. and they don't have enough personnel to watch all of them. it is an enormous amount of effort to watch a dozen people. so if you are dealing with tens of thousands of diseffected muslims in france the french don't have enough police to deal with it and these people slipped through. and some mistakes will have been made but we have the same problems. and mind you, the french police are very very good. they very efficient. and when they recognize a problem, they know how to deal with it. >> and we've heard that again and again and how skilled at counter terrorism they are and eavesdropping and listening in. they have been lauded around the world for that. and how deep does this go? and there is now a report of mass casualty attacks against the west. there are reports the gunm

training program at the coca-cola company, the local bottling plant and he was going to meet nicolas sarkozy. you can imagine that people who meet the president of france have to go through a number of background checks and make sure they're okay to meet the president of this country. and he passed all those tests at the time. >> wolf as you know people escape from poverty in paris and in big cities and small cities all over the world without turning to violence or crime let alone terrorism, but it is an aspect of the discussion here wolf about what are you doing with these young people from this burgeoning muslim population. they're french but are they being embraced given opportunities, and if not, what will wind up being the alternatives. >> this part of the tragedy what's going on, but in the short-term u they've got immediate issues. stay with us. i want to bring in some experts now to discuss what's going on. this unfolding situation. joining us the retired lieutenant colonel, james reece, the cnn global affairs analyst, also joining us, tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director and p

the frempk president, as well as the french prime minister as well as former french president nicolas sarkozy. there will be a 45-minute ceremony at that synagogue then prime minister netanyahu will say a few words. obviously the jewish community here and jewish people around the world very struck by the events of the past couple days. particularly by the friday hostage taking and killing in the kosher supermarket on the eastern side of paris. four hostages were killed in that incident. that is that they weren't even alive to be hostages. they were killed when the gunman amedy cooulibalycoulibaly, burst into the store and shot them dead. we understand those four victims will be brought back to israel for burial there. we understand, too, in that incident there were four other people that were hurt and as well as police officers as well. words are being said between french president olan and the victims. the families of the victims. heart felt words. we watch this enormous display throughout the streets of paris enormous outpouring of emotion from the french people. again, as we mentioned a sh

nicolas sarkozy spoke up. >> "france in the french."ow to get to the culture in place. >> my agenda is the ecb and the culture of deflation. we have a real economic problem going in europe that europe possibly to -- europe's leaders can catch their breath, they will have to address. >> you have the u.s. economy where everything seems to be going ok. the lead up to the jobs report on friday. liz ann sonders how critical is the jobs report? >> i think a path of continued strong job growth will continue the path to tightening in the middle of the year. i think it is more about that they want to start the process now. they want to put bullets back in their gun for future use in the events that we have problems. they are not turning a problem -- blind eye to deflation. >> keep your powder try, as well. liz ann sonders think you so much. our thanks. bloomberg surveillance on radio continues. "in the loop" is up next. ♪ >> good morning. you are "in the loop." we begin with an update on yesterday's shooting in paris. two suspects are still on t

former president nicolas sarkozy said i am overwhelmed by these barbaric events.ivilization itself is at stake. civilization and freedom of expression. at rallies across the country last night demonstrators carried placards saying i am charlie in solidarity with the magazine "charlie hebdo," which was targeted by the gunmen. people here didn't necessarily agree or even like it, but they did believe it had the right to speak freely. something "charlie hebdo" had done often outrageously over the years. it often took aim at islamic extremism with provocative cartoons and comic. once a spoof edition was guest edited by the prophet muhammad. and the last tweet yesterday before the attack poked fun at the head of the militant group isis. this position has cost the magazine. in 2011 their offices were fire firebombed and third editor had full-time police protection. that officer was one of the men gunned down in the magazine's office yesterday. outside a floral tribute was growing where the gunmen executed a second police officer before escaping. and in what may be the u

he also meet with president nicolas sarkozy later today.e will be a moment of silence as the search continues. >> thank you. we will speak to you later. hans nichols there in paris. >> you can join in the conversation on twitter with us. talk to us about what has been happening in paris and talk to us about what has been happening at the fed last night or in the tesco story we are covering this morning. at 7:15 in lodon. -- in london. that is where you will find us on twitter. >> coming up if inflation is now a reality, in the u k inflation expectations at the lowest level in two years. so will the bank of england really hike rates? we will discuss that with a former boe member. andrew sentance later in the hour. ♪ >> welcome back. we back with the head of investment across bridge capital -- at across bridge capital. what we saw in the shape of deflation now a reality. what he think this means for quantitative easing? will it happen in january? >> the core numbers increase if you take the food numbers out. we look at the headline number. th

we understand he has met with the former french me mere nicolas sarkozy moments ago. of course vigilance is key. we understand understand that in terms of what's going on elsewhere in france wheelchair heard records there has been a bomb in the eastern part of france and that was possibly near a mosque. we're working to confirm more details on that story and we'll bring that to you as soon as we have them. >> thank you for giving us the details, hadley gamble. >>> u.s. president barack obama has joined leaders around the world condemning the paris shooting as an assault on freedom and western values. listen in. >> the one thing i'm very confident about is the values we share with the french people a believe, a universal belief in freedom of expression is something that can't be silenced because of the senseless violence of a few. >> let's talk more about security and the opportunity to ramp up on defense with tony fratto prosecutinging director. the recent attack on paris do you think this will result in the u.s. as well as the european union to proor "advertise secur

the french president is expected to stand with his former rival nicolas sarkozy.ur best weapon. in fact 81% of the french public survey tell a paris newspaper they are ready to come pay respects. a jewish newspaper in humburg was the target of an arson attack this morning. nobody was hurt in that incident either. ballistics have now linked one of the paris gunmen to another shooting and his girlfriend who is the subject of a manhunt are in syria. ron allen is live at that rally, just getting under way any minute now. ron, take it away. just set the scene for us over there. >> well steve, this rally has been going on for a couple of hours. if you look at it from the broader perspective, it's going on for several days. there are literally tens of thousands of people gathered in the square here behind me that you can see and this is just the beginnings of it. been out here since early in the morning and people from all across the city and all across the country. you quoted that poll that say 80% of the people from france want to join. join this march to show unity an

. >> president hollande brought to the palace today, the man he beat in the last round, nicolas sarkozy been the interior minister he had a very tough anti-terrorist and security policy when he was in office and he was brought in to the palace today for the first time since he was defeated. there's an attempt to do what the president said last night in his address to the nation -- this must unify us it can't cow us we must fight this scourge, this is happening in an environment where the far right, very populist national front party is very far ahead in the polls. and they are islam-phobes so that's going to play on fears in france. for many years there's been a political correctness about the kind of violence that's perpetrated in the name of muslim and of course many moderate muslims come out and say not in my name and they need to come out and say not in my name. we do have to ask the question why is this rage being fuelled and used by islamic extremists? why is islam the vehicle for this political rage? we have to ask that question. it has to be answered. we have to ask why the word

behind francois hollande, nicolas sarkozy. we forgot to mention that. political archrivals.egarding marie le pen. she claims that she was not invited, but no official invitations were issued for the parties. she was received by francois hollande last week after the events at "charlie hebdo." fronds up -- francois hollande made it absolutely clear on friday everybody was welcome and said he would guarantee the security of everyone, including marie le pen. this is an enormous challenge for france's police. can you imagine, more than 50 world leaders? it is absolutely clear that a number of socialist leaders, a number of additions would have felt increasingly uncomfortable walking with marienlenpen -- marie le pen. was it she considered persona non grata? that is what she says. is she exploiting this for political purposes? >> john bowen there are so many issues to talk to and discussed as we look at these pictures from the center of paris where the unity march is taking place, but i want to ask you about france's secular tradition. it is completely detached from religion. that