. >> jon: joining is now come on nolan klein and nicole debord.do you think about what the attorney general had to say there? >> i think it's a really tough issue because the reality is that there is no one definition for sanctuary cities. sanctuary cities in chicago may be something very different from what's happening and another city. the reality is that what sessions is asking is for these counties and cities to bear the burden of what would ordinarily be a federal cost of detaining people. some of these cities do not have the budget for it. they hold people on federal cases much longer than that they would ordinarily be held for. this is a huge budget problem for these places. >> jon: nolan, do you agree? >> going back to the original question, i think attorney general sessions may have been a bit of hyperbole in my opinion, but i don't think the budget is the primary issue as it relates to so-called sanctuary cities refusing to enforce federal immigration law. in fact, marielle gimenez in miami-dade county said they will cooperate. there's a