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nicole hanna jones at howard university me now in our studio.>> thanks for having me. >> why, the expansion? what did you feel is necessary to expand upon in this new book? >> there were still so many areas of american life that we wanted to explore. in other historians we wanted to include that we could not fit into the original project. it was an opportunity to expand on the original essays to answer some of the critics and really show our work that undergirded the original project and to make that connection of slavery to modern america even stronger. >> you tackle a lock. even in this -- you tackle a lot. 19 essays, capitalism, music, citizenship, contributes include dorothy roberts, wesley morris, tremaine lee, how did you decide what to include, who to approach? >> it was kind of a mix. there was an essay byr dorothy roberts about how race was constructed. martha jones, i wanted her to write and citizenship. and then there were certain writers, i think he is a brilliant scholar and i did not know what he would write, but i wanted to includ

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nicole hanna jones is fighting that so we can face the stories head on.y, nicole henna jones, creator of the 1619 project which is now expanded into a book out now with the picture book "born on the water." i have a lot of questions about the book. first, i want to read you a quote. thank you for being here. there was a piece written in the "boston globe" opinion section that published on tuesday that said being a black child afforded george stinney no mercy from a death sentence. i feel like one of the things that we don't talk about is black children and what being a black child has meant historically from enslavement to today often times it's meant nothing, nothing when it comes to whether or not people have empathy or sympathy for you. your thoughts? >> yes, absolutely. we know that what happened to george stinney is what happened to trayvon, it's what happened to mcdonald when he was shot 16 times by police. there is a sense that black children are not actually children, that black children get treated as adults from a young age. we often don't even

but that education lie, critical race theory, yesterday on the show, we were talking to nicole hanna jones about the 1619 project, that has been changed and morphed by republicans into something that it's not. so 1619 project just says, hey, let's actually learn about the history that actually existed, that we don't learn in schools. critical race theory is meant for law students and university students. but it is being used effectively as a cudgel. what do democrats do to fight back. saying, i don't want this nonsense being taught in school. how do you fight that back with your constituents? >> well, we need to raise the level of our voices. and we need boots on the ground and we need to be engaged in every single school district in this country, telling the truth. and the truth is, we want an accurate teaching of history. if we teach history accurately from multiple perspectives, it helps to strengthen and improve our democracy. one of the things i love about the build back better act, is not just investments in housing, largest investments in history, and investment in climate, largest

>> guest: so, the 1619 project, my colleague nicole hanna jones played a big role. and i think there are a bunch of things going on in the project and in the controversy around it. and part of what it's trying to do, i think, is just basically, you know, have a more complete history of slavery and the black experience in america. and i think this is, in part, in general of what some of the ideas that are sort of in play this debates about education and changing ideas about history right now are, i think, just that. just the idea that, you know, we've had this sort of oversimplifieded narrative about slavety and -- slavery and african-american history that, for instance, doesn't focus enough on, you know, the real nature of life under segregation and what happened to african-americans after civil war and things like the controversy over confederate statues, for instance, i think are part of that where, you know, basically white america for a certain period of time told a story about american history that was mostly about sort of knitting the country back together aft