there's little compromise here. >> brown: nicole sanchez, back to the industry more broadly.so see very high-profile women in the tech industry. explain-- is there a disconnect? how do you explain that? >> well, i think that there are some disconnects and i think that the danger, just like in any sector, is to point to one or two-- in this case i am assuming you mean marissa mayer and cheryl sandberg but it's easy to point to two and say, "well, they made it and why can't you?" there are things about their profiles, their education, their socioeconomic background that allowed them to do that and i don't knock them for that. for every one of them, there are thns of women who don't come close to that but are no less talented. i think any time we hold up anybody for a role model for all of us, it's very dangerous. it certainly doesn't bear to mind the struggles i see some of the women i was with yesterday with one of my clients, some of the engineers who are just trying to get good code out. they're not wanting to be on an executive track. they're not wanting to be managers. the