a principled republican in the lincoln progress, nicole wallace obviously is an exception.bvious to anybody with eyes, ears and sanity that that may be the exception, 95% of the americans don't agree with what president biden said yesterday. he's pulling in the low 20s on his handling of afghanistan. what stuck out to me the most was here you have the president in the worst moment of his presidency of almost any presidency and does this speech and runs from the podium and doesn't take any questions from the press whatsoever so if you add it all up the president of the united states, the vice president who you will see on the back of a milk carton at this point you can't find her anywhere and the press secretary and jen psaki have taken 0 questions on this debacle in afghanistan and i look at msnbc yesterday and see the taliban spokesman taking questions before our leaders are. what does that tell you about the most transparent administration of all time? jillian: a number of people are disappointed they haven't heard from the vice president considering so much of the conver

>> i think it was kind of nice of nicole wallace to give everybody a heads up, you know, it's true, ifs don't open , that's what they're going to do. not the people who aren't vaccinated in our republic, but certainly unvaccinated republicans, that's exactly wha they're going to say. >> that's so true, told everybody the game plan. she might have to put a pin in it. >> joe, what are your thoughts? to keep my prediction for the upcoming school year is i will still be required to stay 50 yards from the building. >> it's weird because your always wearing a mask anyway. >> one of the original masters. this is a difficult issue for m because i'm not anti- vax, but am pro polio, i did get vaccinated, i went with guard t sell. i had i think the chicago it's amazing this christmas list the went down. in chicago, how about some bulletproof vests. at least they kid state in school. one of the things i think we learned in these lockdowns is i you need to do the remote learning, why do you have to do the remote learning with the horrible teachers in your schoo district. >> get the best available t

>> i think it was kind of nice of nicole wallace to give everybody a heads up, you know, it's true, if , that's what they're going to do. not the people who aren't vaccinated in our republic, but certainly unvaccinated republicans, that's exactly wha they're going to say. >> that's so true, told everybody the game plan. she might have to put a pin in it. >> joe, what are your thoughts? to keep my prediction for the upcoming school year is i will still be required to stay 50 yards from the building. >> it's weird because your always wearing a mask anyway. >> one of the original masters. this is a difficult issue for m because i'm not anti- vax, but am pro polio, i did get vaccinated, i went with guard t sell. i had i think the chicago it's amazing this christmas list the went down. in chicago, how about some bulletproof vests. at least they kid state in school. one of the things i think we learned in these lockdowns is i you need to do the remote learning, why do you have to do the remote learning with the horrible teachers in your schoo district. >> get the best available to everyone.

joining us now is host of deadline white house, nicolle wallace. ran of that bush white house. nicolle, good to see you. what was the discussion? take us back to those days in 2001? the room where it happens, as they say. what was the discussion in the room about the possibility of success in this country? because for many americans watching this tonight, it has the feeling of a greek tragedy. an inevitable outcome that finally happened. was there a feeling that this outcome could have been avoided? that this was a winnable war? >> yeah, i think 20 years ago and more recently, 16 years ago and 12 years ago, presidents bush and obama had such a different view on what was possible. it was president obama who was for the afghan surge. one of the more interesting aspects of working for john mccain when his rival in the democratic party was for an afghan surge and john mccain was viewed as the hawk there. then president trump's promise was to get out of afghanistan and in a lot of ways, the republican party, the whole country was. and i'm going to answer

nicolle wallace leads off the coverage as she does every afternoon at this hour, 4:00 p.m.olle, bearing in mind david gergen on twitter in the last hour, he has served, what, four u.s. presidents, is strongly recommending biden do what jfk did after bay of pigs, what ronald reagan did after iran contra, take full responsibility, say this is on me. according to your reporting, nicolle, what will the president say when we hear from him? and more fundamentally, what can he say? >> well, to david gergen's advice, this president is i would say most supremely confident of his experience in the area of foreign policy. and our friend mike memoli, who will be along, probably has more thoughts on that. but i know in navigating the crisis in the mideast earlier this summer he felt like he knew as much as anyone who'd ever had this job. i think that's why the very, very vivid and very tragic scenes that you're describing are such a blow to one of the central strengths of his presidency. i have talked to senior white house officials all weekend, and they are so unapologetically committe

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it's not coming out of nicole wallace's wallet but all-american's wallets. >> local communities pick up the tab as well but just to get to first principles here the united states of america never ever made a promise written or in written to the people of afghanistan that after 20 years they were unable to secure their own country that we would take 2 hours. that is nonsense, that is never policy. laura: they keep saying it has been set all over cable, we made a promise, if we don't live up to our promise, very heart wrenching as a mom, heart wrenching to see any suffering in afghanistan, the streets of chicago, africa. it is horrific. >> of the united states takes the policy that every person suffering under sharia law has a right to live in the united states of america we are going to need to make room for half 1 billion people. this is not intellectually serious. it's not about you ministering relief because it is cheaper to settle afghan refugees in pakistan and other neighboring countries. laura: they are doing big amounts to bring people out of afghanistan, the uae can take thes

the rachel maddow show starts right now with nicole wallace. good evening nicole. >> so nice to see you. thanks, chris. >>> thanks to all of you for joining this hour. i know, i know. rachel is on vacation, but we'll get through this. we start with the dramatic announcement this morning from the attorney general of the state of new york. >> the independent investigation has concluded that governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed multiple women and in doing so violated federal and state law. specifically, the investigation found that governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed current and former new york state employees by engaging in unwelcome and non-consensual touching and making numerous offensive comments of a suggestive and sexual nature that created a hostile work environment for women. >> the investigation released today by the new york attorney general's office documents allegations against governor cuomo by 11 women. the investigators interviewed 179 witnesses and collected tens of thousands of pieces of evidence to corroborate the allegatio

decade plot of money they get, which again, somebody has to pay for it, it's not coming out of nicole wallace'slet, it's all of american's wallet. >> in the local communities pick up the tab for the education as well which is very costly. but just to get to first principles here, the united states of america never ever made a promise written or unwritten to the people of afghanistan that if after 20 years, they were unable to secure their own country that we would take them to ours. that is nonsense. that is never been the u.s. government policy. >> laura: why do they keep saying that? they keep saying that it has been said all over tables, we made a promise. it's very heart-wrenching as a mom it is heart-wrenching to see any suffering happening in afghanistan. we are seen suffering on the streets of chicago. we are seeing suffering in africa. everywhere. >> in libya and somalia, if the united states take the policy that every person suffering under sharia law has the right to live in the united states of america we will need to make room for half a billion people. it's not intellectually serio

the rachel maddow show starts right now with nicole wallace. ining this hour. i know, i know. rachel is on vacation, but we'll get through this. we start with the dramatic announcement this morning from the attorney general of the state of new york. >> the independent investigation has

he was asked this afternoon by nicole wallace if what we witnessed after the election was an attempted coup. we will discuss on the other side. >> look at the progression of events -- first, the onslaught of lawsuits. going to the judiciary with many of the judges that he appointed. then he went to the department of justice and said he would manipulate the attorney general into really initiating and investigation to particular states and we know what happened then he turned the mob loose on the united states capitol. we should dismiss this as a bad day for donald trump. it was a conscious plan, strategy, and it did not work. scso neil, interview, how close did we come -- and you take the optimistic knew that out there about your beloved department of justice that the good news is the system held? >> i think we came very close from everything it looks like, this is dumb held but it held because of a couple of people and it looks like brian with each additional fact that we've learned january six and one happen before it, looks like trump really attempted a coup and to corrupt the justic

. >> kayleigh: that is true, and kt, nicole wallace is doing that, saying 95% of americans agree withere is a poll, 70% of americans disagree, so is she just lying to her audience, it seems? >> k.t.: yeah, who are they talking to? biden audience, loony left that control the american media. who are they talking to? foreign policy establishment, the republicans and democrats who got this wrong for 20 years, the generals who kept going to capitol hill, we need a couple more bill yen dollars, more troops, couple more years we will win the war or politicians who say, we nied -- need to build into a modern democracy and the intelligence community who missed al qaeda, this and everything in between. they are still going to always ark pol jize for joe biden. i was in the white house situation room in april 1975, we had to evacuate americans from the american embassy in saigon, i remember pledging never again should we be in this position and allow america to be defeated in a war we had no business being in, we couldn't win and our people didn't support. the american media agreed, today, no, t

matthew, i would like to begin with you because of something our mutual friend nicolle wallace said thiselevision after the president spoke. she summed up his speech this way. 95% of the american people will agree with him. 95% of the kind of twitter media complex, the people i refer to as the cheap seats will disagree with him. do you concur with that assessment? >> i don't know about the percentages, but i think the american public will agree with what he said tonight and i think there's criticism coming from a lot of different people which i find amazing. people that actually pushed the war to begin with which was a huge mistake and people that were part of an administration that exacerbated the problem are also criticizing joe biden in the midst of this. i think what will ultimately happen, 70 to 75% of the american public wanted us to withdraw and has wanted us to withdraw for more than ten years and joe biden happens to be the seventh president involved in this afghan situation over the course of ronald reagan, all the way through george w. bush who got us into this nation-building

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i'm alicia menendez in for nicolle wallace. the mission in afghanistan now a race against the clock. at least 21,000 people have been flown out in the past 24 hours. that's more than at any point in the mission. in total, 58,700 americans and afghans have been evacuated since august 14th. this hour the president will announce that the united states is sticking to its deadline of withdrawing all forces from afghanistan by august 31st. we're going to bring you his remarks live when they happen. one official telling nbc news that the situation is fluid and things could still change. quote, we think we can be done by august 31 if all stays on track. but if a terror attack shuts down the airport or if the taliban prevents americans or our visa holders, et cetera, from coming, then we may need more time. the administration had been facing intense pressure to keep troops past the august 31st deadline not just from western allies who pressed the president in an emergency meeting of the g-7 earlier today, but also from allies in congres

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he was asked this afternoon by my colleague and friend nicolle wallace if what we witnessed after the election was an attempted coup. we'll discuss on the other side. >> look at the progression of events. first, the onslaught of lawsuits going through the judiciary with many of the judges that he appointed. then he went to the department of justice, and he decided he would manipulate the attorney general into really initiating an investigation into particular states. and we know what happened then. he turned the mob loose on the united states capitol. so we shouldn't just dismiss this as a bad day for donald trump. it was conscious, planned strategy that did not work. >> so neal, in your view, how close did we come? and do you take the optimistic view that's out there about your beloved department of justice that the good news is the system held? >> i think we came very close from everything it looks like. and yeah, the system held, but it held because of a couple of people. and it looks like, brian, with each additional fact that we learn about january 6 and what happened before janu

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i know we'll have much more analysis coming up on "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace, whichw. >>> hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in washington. president biden just moments ago wrapped up remarks on the end of america's nearly 20-year war in afghanistan. the president applauding the work of the u.s. military and u.s. diplomats in what he called one of the largest airlifts in history and singling out for praise the 13 u.s. service members who were killed in a bombing near kabul airport late last week. the president also making a forceful defense of the decision to withdraw from afghanistan by the deadline of august 31st, saying he would not, quote, continue a forever war and extend a, quote, forever exit. in a moment we will

i'm alicia menendez in for nicolle wallace. there is new urgency in the mission to evacuate americans and allies from afghanistan. just a day after a devastating bombing by isis that killed 13 u.s. service members and more than 100 afghan civilians, national security officials have reportedly told the president another terror attack in kabul is likely. the pentagon today warning of, quote, specific credible threats while clarifying that yesterday's attack involved a single suicide bomber and one or more gunman at a gate to the kabul airport and there was not a second explosion at the hotel nearby as was originally reported. with just a few days to go before u.s. forces leave evacuation flights are still under way. more than 12,000 people were flown out in the last 24 hours. the state department believes the number of americans looking to leave afghanistan now in the hundreds. crowds are still gathering near kabul airport, a scene here in satellite photos not far from the site of yesterday's attack. "the new york times" describi

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i did the same with nicolle wallace, which is how i got matthew dowd.aid a thing which is so brilliant about the concentric circles of afghanistan. where you have got the airport in the middle and then outside the airport in kabul and you just go out and out and out and how difficult it is for someone in those outer rings to find their way into the airport. there was a story today, that u.s. actually sent a military chopper on thursday to pick up 169 americans who were just outside the airport area. but they were afraid to, like, navigate their way there because you got to go through these checkpoints but i have to ask you this. as somebody who has expertise here, as a nonexpert, the way i see this war is that once donald trump cut the deal and said we're out of there. we're going to leave. the only choices that biden really had realistically were negate the deal and say we are staying and probably that means we have to add more troops because we are just going to continue this operation. or leave and it was always going to be inelegant when we left. am

i'm in for nicolle wallace. make no mistake the bipartisan january 6 select committee is dead serious about getting to the bottom of the capitol insurrection. the committee took its first big step in its investigation since that dramatic hearing back in july featuring four first responders. the committee issuing a sweeping request for records from the justice department to the fbi to the department of defense, all the way to the united states park service touching on practically every aspect of january

over to nicolle wallace we go. nicolle, i'm especially interested in your viewpoint in that you were around for the construct, the start of the policy. and i'd love to hear you out on the current split between the press and public. the two audiences that will hear and view this speech and the president's choice to go hard with his own decision-making. >> well, i'm going to say two things, both hard to say. but i'll say them anyway because here they are. 95% of the american people will agree with everything he just said. 95% of the press covering this white house will disagree. and for an american president to finally be completely aligned with such an overwhelming majority of what the american people think about afghanistan is probably a tremendous relief to the american people. he also went a long way to really fleshing out a biden doctrine. and there are questions about whether he can achieve what he set out. but there is no equivocation, there is no lack of confidence that this is the right decision. and what he

"deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. >>> hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east on what is turning out to be an incredibly busy days of breaking news. let me tell you what we'll do together. in a few minutes, president biden will come out and make remarks on this covid vaccination effort at home and abroad. the president is also expected to take indication on a number of topics, including the refusal investigation from the investigation into governor cuomo. we will carry the president's comments live when they happen, and talk more about the investigation into governor cuomo. but we're going to start with the unfurling human tragedy among the men and women who protected the capitol and the lawmakers who worked inside it on january 6th. it's now colliding with one of the party spiraling into conspiracy lies. yesterday officials confirmed two more police officers who responded to the attack at the capitol, have died by suicide. speaker pelosi issued a statement about hashida, who called him a hero. d.c. police also confirming that officer kyle

i'm jason johnson in for nicolle wallace. today having to confront new challenges of his presidency as he recognizes yesterday's horrible attack in kabul amid warning another is likely. as the president laid out many times his motivation for ending america's involvement in afghanistan was to prevent any more u.s. military deaths in america's longest war, but yesterday 13 u.s. service members were killed and 18 injured from a suicide bombing at kabul's airport. over 100 afghans died as well. over the past two days the commander in chief has voiced sympathy for the heroes lost and vowed retribution. "the washington post" reports on the significance of yesterday's attack for president biden. quote. the killings clearly marked a pivotal moment in biden's presidency and an episode that is likely to be part of his legacy. biden keeps a tally of u.s. service members who have died in iraq and afghanistan on a card in his breast pocket, and now for the first time that tally will include some who lost their lives on his watch. in addit

"deadline white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. >>> hi there, everyone. happy friday. it's 4:00 in the east. president biden today getting out in front of the crisis in afghanistan. and what is quickly turning into one of the largest airlifts in history, pledging a continued surge in resources to kabul while also defending the decision to withdraw from the country. >> let me be clear. any american who wants to come home, we will get you home. make no mistake, this evacuation mission is dangerous. it involves risks to our armed forces. and it's being conducted under difficult circumstances. i cannot promise what the final outcome will be. or that it will be without risk of loss. but as commander in chief i can assure you that i will mobilize every resource necessary. the past week has been heartbreaking. we've seen gut-wrenching images of panicked people acting out of sheer desperation. you know, it's completely understandable. they're frightened, they're sad, uncertain what happens next. i don't think anyone, i don't think any one of us can see these pictures and not f

i know we'll have much more analysis coming up on "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace, which starts right now. >>> hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in washington. president biden just moments ago wrapped up remarks on the end of america's nearly 20-year war in afghanistan. the president applauding the work of the u.s. military and u.s. diplomats in what he called one of the largest airlifts in history and singling out for praise the 13 u.s. service members who were killed in a bombing near kabul airport late last week. the president also making a forceful defense of the decision to withdraw from afghanistan by the deadline of august 31st, saying he would not, quote, continue a forever war and extend a, quote, forever exit. in a moment we will speak with the president's national security advisor, jake sullivan. but first for our ongoing coverage we are joined by helene cooper, pentagon correspondent for "the new york times," an msnbc contributor, former top state department official rick stengel, now also an msnbc political analyst and paul rieckhoff is here, founder of veterans

"deadline white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. >>> hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. the breaking news, "the new york times" today described as an astonishing reversal of fortune for one of the nation's best known leaders. new york governor andrew cuomo is resigning amid a cascade of allegations over sexual harassment and abuse, answering a chorus of calls for his exit from within his own party, in the new york state legislature, among the state's u.s. senators, all the way up to the president, president joe biden. it all came after a report from new york's attorney general last week concluded that cuomo sexually harassed nearly a dozen women, including current and former government workers. cuomo's announcement comes as he was facing the prospect of impeachment and forced removal from office. but in a press conference this afternoon, he framed his resignation effective two weeks from today as anything but an admission of guilt. "the times" adding this, the governor framed his resignation as one of political necessity, given the firestorm of con

i'm chris jansing in for nicolle wallace. the u.s. military involvement in afghanistan as he and his administration are beating back heavy criticism coming their way. right now the situation in kabul remains volatile and at times violent. from our nbc news reporting, a deadly fire fight brought renewed chaos to kabul airport on monday where thousands of afghans were waiting to flee the country as the taliban faced down a resistance movement in the north. one afghan soldier was killed and three others were injured in the fight between afghan security forces and unknown attackers at the north gate of the airport, the german military said in a tweet. according to the latest numbers from the white house, in just the last 24 hours 16,000 individuals were evacuated and the administration's focus remains on maintaining the steady stream of removals. but president biden acknowledges there is still much more work ahead to get the rest of the americans and our afghan allies safe from taliban rule. with the august 31st deadline for withdrawal fa

. >> pretty much with the exception of nicole wallace who said that she is a host on msnbc, former communicationstor for george w. bush is at 95% of americans will agree with the biden speech, which is no, it's more like 9% may be, not 95%, but also brian williams saying the president owned it, no, he didn't. he blamed everyone else but him. he blamed trump. he blamed the afghan army in the military, and afghans themselves. a quick question for chris, are you as amazed and i shouldn't say amazed, but the president of the united states, vice president and even press secretary she'll be speaking later today has taken zero questions in a week on this while the taliban the spokesperson is doing interviews, i mean, that's kind of bad luck; no? >> kind of wondering what jen psaki put into her contract with the administration puts in mask mandates she always seems to be out of town and gives the job to someone else and she supposed to be the professional picture should be dealing with this. the amount of hide and seek we have been playing with this administration is absolutely wild and i will give some

leave 10,000 americans stranded that's the biden doctrine, surrender and this is what nicole wallacefor the withdraw famous ly but then it sounds like the white house which is so data driven looked at the polling, a super majority of americans would like to end the war in afghanistan, just pull out. they combine the two, next thing you know they've got this , which didn't have a plan. >> right and now 70% of americans disapprove of the way president biden has exited. it was 69% who once said hey we want to withdraw from afghanistan, now 49%. no one wants to see images of afghans hanging from u.s. military planes. no one wants to hear stories of little girls and women who are sold into sex slavery, interpreters and allies left behind. ainsley: kayleigh, jen psaki said you were reporting on this earlier, that she is working on getting our american journalists out there. how would she be able to do this >> yeah i'm not sure how she be able to do that. i guess in coordination with the pentagon. there are now 10,000 americans left behind. they say they are calling their congressional offi

wallace can undersold, nicole cetera. and the west has done what is done well, this appointment is also been felt in the u. s. among those who serves in afghanistan during the last 20 years. david roach is a former plato operations director. joint chiefs of staff. he says, time will tell if the u. s. mission was worth it or not. we never fully addressed corruption within the afghan government. and what we see here is not a military defeat. we've seen us failure of morale, a collapse of government, where forces decided not to fight because they had no confidence in their leaders. what we're seeing is this idea that you can build a modern military without having a corresponding civilian government and the, it's like painting over rust. i mean we, we had a civilian government that was fundamentally corrupted, tribal tried to built the modern military to support it. perhaps we ignored the clouds, which imperative that you have to have the people, the military, you know, and, and the government. and it failed. there has been a

so personally, mister wallace can undersold nicole and the west has done what is done you know, so while these countries are all grappling, as i say, with the urgency and the urgent need of the evacuations, in this sort of instant emergency period, there is also a longer term view, which is hoping into sight whether it's dealing with the taliban. whether it's the coming security crisis within the country from without or whether it's the coming wave of refugees leaving the country. it is dawning on all of these governments now that there is a long term view to take care and angular merkel, and as a se, one of her final policy moments warning her colleagues. this will keep us busy for a very long time. jonah, thank you very much, john hall that johnny live from london. well, russia has said it will retain a diplomatic presence in complex, hoping to develop times the taliban, but says it's in no rush to recognize the group as afghanistan's rulers or governors. pabo felton. how is a military analyst 20th on skype from moscow bible? how would the kremlin like to see this process evolving over