at the meeting that we held last year attended by nida, attended by the office of national drug control policy and samsa, we heard loud and clear there was an interest in moving it to over the counter status. >> let me just interrupt you. i'm not sure i agree with that, but we live in a world that -- [inaudible] now is available over the counter with the tootsie rolls and snicker bars. if interdiction and abstinence is not going to work in other areas, you know, maybe this is something that needs to be looked at. because anyone who has ever seen the dramatic reversal of an amp of narcan on an opiate overdose will understand that you go from crisis to normal in the space of 26 seconds, and it is dramatic. again, i'm not saying that i advocate that, but i just wonder in this brave new world that we've entered, is that a consideration? so i hear that you are, in fact, entertaining that. mr. kerlikowske, i also have to mention about drug diversion. you mentioned the 11 hours in medical school. you do learn a lot in your very first years in residency and in practice, and i just recall very v