muslim, to do the same thing that nidal hasan did. and that really was when most americans heard about anwar al awlaki. so he is added to the list. not only is he killed in a drone strike, his son, an american citizen, abdulrahman al awlaki is killed. there had been another discussion about was it a mistake. you have new reporting in the book about the reporting of the president when he finds out about the death. >> just to clarify, abdulrahman al awlaki was born in denver. he had not seen his father for two years. the last time he saw him in 2009. he was living with his grandparents, upstanding citizens in yemen. he ran away from home, trying to find his father. two weeks later, he is sitting outside with his teenaged cousins when a drone enters yemeni airspace and kills him and his cousins. there has never been an official accounting of what happened from the obama administration, only through leaks. the ultimate conclusion it was an outrageous mistake and they were trying to kill a terrorist named ibrahim. he is still alive. we don

and we learned that awlaki had been in e-mail contact with nidal hasan. ails have been declassified and showed that hasan was like a stalker. he was asking awlaki to find him a wife. awlaki wasn't responding to him. awlaki is kind of ignoring him and say yeah, brother, if i find you a wife, i'll let you know. and then nidal hasan commits this heinous crime and kills all of these soldiers, and awlaki responds by printing a blog that says nidal hasan is a hero, and essentially calls on other soldiers, if they're muslim, to do the same thing that nidal hasan did. and that really was when most americans heard about anwar al awlaki. so he is added to the list. not only is he killed in a drone strike, his son and american citizen, abdul act man al awlaki is killed. there had been a other of discussion about was it a mistake. you have new reporting in the book about the reporting of the president when he finds out about the death. >> just to clarify, abdulrahman al all lack which ki was born in denver. he had not seen his father for two years. the last time he sa

psychiatrist and committed a massacre of his fellow soldiers and then stories appear that that nidal hasan had been in touch with anwar a lockie who was in hiding in yemen and he was described as this radical. and so i started investigating that story and we know from the declassified e-mails between a lock in the doll house on that u.s. investigators had the term that i lucky had nothing to do with that plot but what i like he did do which i think all of us as americans found offensive is that he praised the attack and called the doll hassan a hero he wrote a blog post saying that and a lot he already was a very popular figure in the english speaking muslim world his tapes and writings were were being read across the globe in his lectures were being listened to and the so the obama administration really intensified its heart in its hunt for a lockie and after the christmas day bomb plot this underwear bomber umar farouk abdulmutallab tried to bring down the airliner over detroit u.s. officials started leaking to the press saying that he had in fact blessed that operation and was involved

and we learned that awlaki had been in e-mail contact with nidal hasan.ve been declassified and showed that hasan was like a stalker. he was asking awlaki to find him a wife. awlaki wasn't responding to him. i think was when most americans b heard about pit. >> not only is he killed in a drone strike, his son, an american citizen, is killed. >> just to clarify he was born in denver, colorado. he had not seen his father for two years. he was living with his grandparents. he ran away from home. two weeks later, he is sitting outside with his teenaged cousins when a drone enters yemeni airspace and kills him and his cousins. there has never been an official accounting of what happened from the obama administration, only through leaks. the ultimate conclusion it was an outrageous mistake and they were trying to kill a terrorist named ibrahim. he is still alive. we don't know who the intended target was. but what i am reporting for first time is a former senior administration official, who worked on the targeted killing program, told me that when president oba

. >> what if nidal hasan was tweeting stuff out about the soldiers' families that he killed. would you be okay with that? >> she's not tweeting stuff out about families. >> would you be okay with anida hasan tweeting? >> i don't have to follow him. >> for the record, andy is not wearing pants. >> d.c. health board says smoking is a pre-existing condition. greg you said now you don't have to quit smoking because they removed the consequence. >> yes. >> because the main consequence has always been the higher insurance premiums. >> absolutely, my friend. >> bernie, kudos to you for supporting this, by the way. >> yes. equality, no more discrimination against smokers. tweet them the same way as fat people. it's the same thing. >> dana, the two states that said smoking isn't a pre-existing condition are colorado and alaska. >> no, i said the one that is. >> california. >> they all start with a c. >> protest over harvard inviting tyga to perform. bernie, you said everything you hear is audio pornography. >> i didn't say anything, i said a lot of it. by the way, i like it. i like ja

wolf, with regard to major nidal hasan and the fort hood shootings. it was dated march 15, 2013. they have not received a response as of yet, i believe. so i wanted to delve into this a little bit if i could. specifically, i want to raise a line, a line from the letter that was from a former colleague of ours, mr. mccue, is now the secretary of the army, and he was interviewed in a "nightline" report sayingt dg purple hearts could adversely affectheriofr a soldier, so to declare a soldier of a fortress, we are told, i'm not an attorney and i don't run the justice department, but we were told that would have a profound effect on the ability to conduct the trial. so this is sort of the basis of where i want to go with my line of questioning. and issues revolve around workplace violence versus acts of terror, whether or not victims would receive a purple heart or not and why and how that might taint the trial of mr. assad and, of course, your role in this because he specifically implies, i believe, in his quote that the justice department here has a role, all in the overview of your

that box was empty by nidal hasan's brother. there was a bank account that his brother came in and emptied. was wired to an account in the west bank that went to hamas. this will not come out in the trial. this should of been named terrorism. i believe a political decision was made not to name it terrorism because they did not want to inflame the passions of muslim americans. host: mike in new york. caller: good morning. when wenew york city, the marathons', we have authorities out hours before the event and they have the canines going out looking for plants like this case somebody attempts to try something. i was wondering if anybody did that in boston? did anybody check for bombs with the dogs? i was wondering. i heard senator mccain say that torture does not work. said when he was tortured in vietnam that he was ashamed of all the stuff he gave up to the enemy. he felt bad about doing that. points.u got your u.s. law enforcement agencies have focused on new 60% of all attacks since 9/11 have focused on new york and the major

. >> what if nidal hasan was tweeting stuff out about the soldiers' families that he killed.ould you be okay with that? >> she's not tweeting stuff out about families. >> would you be okay with anida hasan tweeting? >> i don't have to follow him. >> for the record, andy is not wearing pants. >> d.c. health board says smoking is a pre-existing condition. greg you said now you don't have to quit smoking because they removed the consequence. >> yes. >> because the main consequence has always been the higher insurance premiums. >> absolutely, my friend. >> bernie, kudos to you for supporting this, by the way. >> yes. equality, no more discrimination against smokers. tweet them the same way as fat people. it's the same thing. >> dana, the two states that said smoking isn't a pre-existing condition are colorado and alaska. >> no, i said the one that is. >> california. >> they all start with a c. >> protest over harvard inviting tyga to perform. bernie, you said everything you hear is audio pornography. >> i didn't say anything, i said a lot of it. by the way, i like it. i like jay-

i suspect these two are more along the lines of a major nidal hasan who carried out the attacks through the internet and it's clear with the older brother, tamerlan traveling to russia, i suspect it was he went down into his -- where he has relatives and received training. he was gone for six months last year. we saw that bombing on monday, i would call it tactically sophisticated, strategically stupid. what i mean by that, it shows that they had done proper reconnaissance, they were able to build effective devices to detonate in a short period of time and able to move and integrate themselves into the crowd without drawing attention. but strategically stupid because the kind of weight of international law enforcement and military power that's brought down upon them is something clearly they didn't anticipate and they didn't even have a good escape plan. >> do you think they acted alone? >> no. i think they had a support network. i don't think that they were necessarily responding to some devious mastermind overseas directing them to do this but i don't think that they necessarily ran t

same thing that happened with nidal hasan in the fort hood shootings. the bureau got tipped that this guy was in contact with al awlaki. that he was a jihadist. didn't do anything. bang. this looks like the identical thing here. and you say? >> well, it looks similar. but we can't say based on what we now know that the fbi blew it in this particular case that we talked about you. no certainly the fbi knees to explain itself. hasan case led to a commission appointed by the director led by william webster which came down very hard on how that case was handled in the hasan case and said major mistakes were made and a lot was missed and me blew it whether they blew it this time is impossible to say yet. i think a lot of questions need to be answered about what exactly the russians and we now, i guess we know it was the russians who tipped us off. what exactly did they tell us? what exactly did the hasan -- did this guy say when he he was questioned? what was he asked? and when the fbi said, you know, they found no evidence, you know, how did he get out off

as you may know former army psychiatrist nidal hasan is charged with murder for shooting at -- at fort hood the shooting spree we remember back in 2009. 13 people were killed. more than 30 others wounded. now the department of defense has decided it will not give purple hearts to the victims of the fort hood massacre. saying that it could interfere with hasan receiving a fair trial. that decision is not sitting well with the survivors. >> who was the victim? major hasan or the 32 survivors and the 14 deceased? and it's already obvious information has come out where he got his orders from to perform his jihad. i'm angry. i feel very disappointed, and i feel like we don't even matter. >> powerful words. and joining me now from washington with reaction is lt. colonel tony shaffer, who works at the senator for advanced defense studies. now, as we talked about earlier, you know, i'm still serving. i'm in the pentagon working. >> right. >> scott: i know there is congressional action being taken as a result of this potential ruling by the department of defense. but is this a case where there

muhammad and nidal hasan charged with killing 13 people at the ft. hood, texas, shooting.cult question to ask but they are investigating thousands of people. is it acceptable or basically inevitable that someone is going to fall through the cracks? >> well, in fairness to them and i know working with the jttfs in the past, they have thousands of leads coming in all the time. >> yes. >> but as you mentioned in our letter to the secretary to the director of the fchl bi and to detective clapper, we raised the issue that you raised. five key individuals that were able to in most of the cases successfully pull off a terrorist attack that really slipped through the cracks and off their radar. my job as the chairman of homeland security is to examine what happened, what possibly what went wrong and how can i correct that in the future which is why we intend to hold hearings on this issue. >> the final question, sir, the younger brother dzhokhar is saying they acted alone. it's unclear whether that's what he's saying or whether that's actually true. there are reports that the olde

under investigation by the fbi, in addition to anwar al awlaki, david headley, carlos bledsoe and nidal hasan. five of these six intelligence failures have taken place since 2009. they raise the most serious questions about the efficacy of federal counterterrorism efforts." you seem to already feel that something was missed here. >> well, let me say first that, you know, as a federal prosecutor and work with the fbi, the job fbi, joint task force, boston police, watertown police did a magnificent job bringing this horrible nightmare to a successful ending in less than a week. so i really commend what they did. my job and my obligation as chairman of homeland security is to review these matters to see what, if anything, went wrong and how can we prevent that in the future. >> and what we know so far and what cnn and others have confirmed is that this second suspect, the older brother, was in fact questioned by the fbi because russia says he may have ties to an islamist terrorist group. >> right. my understanding is russian intelligence service contacted the fbi and said you have an individual

issing the nidal hasans, tamerlan tsarnaevs.they said the people who want to commit violence but don't have the means, but the same time missing the really dangerous threats like what we saw in boston. >> trevor aaronson, thank you for being with us, author of, "the terror factory: inside the fbi's manufactured war on terrorism." he is co-director of the florida center for investigative reporting and contributing writer at mother jones. we will have a link to your piece, "how the fbi in boston may have pursued the wrong terrorist." work has wonon's more than two dozen national and regional awards including the molly prize and the data journalism award. when we come back, we're going to roll georgia where young black and white women have decided that they are not going to go to segregated proms any longer and having their own prom more night. we will speak with them. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. we turn now to georgia, wh

if you take major nidal hasan, for example, identified with the group ideology, but he recruited himself. >> explain motive, then, why would you go hang out with your buddies at the dorm at umass/dartmouth tuesday night. on monday night you're killing people that look just like those people you killed on monday and shot their legs off. why would you shoot the legs off total strangers then hang out with a bunch of buddies and act like a real american type? was there an act going on here, robert? is this part act? i don't understand it otherwise. how do you rate generally americans and like generally americans and kill a bunch of them? i don't get it. >> listen, this is absolutely the question here. in light of this tragedy, in perverse ways, it's absolutely fascinating. you've seen some of the photographs released today, for example, going to the atm. and the comportment after the event, there's some ice in that blood. but what's going to be key though, here, too, the brother, in the timeline over the last six months up until he took that constructive act to go from thinking about it to a

fbi and for the director, but this is the latest in a series of cases like this -- anwar alackey, nidal hasan, and now this case of the older brother where the fbi is given information about someone as being potential terrorists, they look at them, and then they don't take action. they go out and carry out murders after this. again, i'm wondering, again, is there something deficient here? what was wrong? again, there was nothing they could find in 2011. he goes to chechnya in 2012. he has statements up on his website. he's talking about radical imams. why didn't the fbi go back and look at this? i don't want to run monday morning quarterback. they did a great job of resolving the case, but as far as getting information in advance and not seeming to take proper action, this is the fifth case i'm aware of where the fbi has failed to stop someone who ultimately became a terrorist murderer. >> congressman king, you said after the bombings -- and this is your quote -- we are letting our guard down. do you believe this attack should have been prevented? you have also said, i gather, that political

some say there might be a hybrid here, like major nidal hasan was radicalized via the internet, yet thereas another soldier at ft. hood, an enlisted man, who built two explosive devices just like the ones we see used in boston because he had access to the same internet magazines that these guys did, but at ft. hood, he used it to kill soldiers for his own personal reasons, not necessarily anything that had to do with religion or politics. in this particular case, because perhaps the older brother was radicalized, had influence on the younger brother, who's the fugitive right now, we may find this is something like a timothy mcveigh. in essence, the target was not so specific, but the target was located because he wanted to have maximum impact and he wanted to get some type of media attention for the cause of the chechen people and their conflict with russia. and as timothy mcveigh told us after oklahoma city, when we said, but look at all the people who died and were injured, and of course, mcveigh said, collateral damage. and these individuals are the ones surviving may well say the same

obviously nidal hasan the fort hood shooter was an officer in the u.s. military.etely integrated into u.s. society. and of course domestic extremists who don't do this under the banner of al qaeda or islam have almost by definition lived in the united states and been a part of our society, and then turn against it. so, investigators, assuming he will talk, investigators will help piece together how he went from being a high school student in cambridge, mass, to someone who was willing to kill innocent civilians. >> do you think others were involved, michael? michael, it's alex. i hope you can still hear me. we're having audio difficulties today. do you think others were involved? >> i think in part it depends on how you define involved. in my initial take here, and what we've been told i don't think there are other people directing any of this. i think it will probably turn out that these two operated alone in that sense. but if what you mean by involved is were there other people who influenced these two to take these steps, the answer to that is almost certainly

people like na nad nidal hasan are hard to detect. not everyone goes shouting from a rooftop they'll become a jihadist. that's not the way it works. >>> coming up, gun safety advocates were furious when the senate voted against better background checks. but can they turn their anger into votes? that's the key question. can they punish those senators who went the other way on the issue when the voting comes around next november? >>> look who's talking. today, it's hillary clinton's first day on the big money lecture circuit. there she is. everyone will be listening for clues as to whether she's running for president in 2016. i think she is. but only she knows. >>> plus, on the eve of the opening of the george w. bush presidential library in dallas, isn't there an irony in having him have a library? the former president says his relationship with dick cheney is cordial. hmm. think it's got something to do with dick cheney manipulating him into a hard, unnecessary war? you think? >>> president obama's fail safe method of making sure his

one was nidal hasan who killed 14 people at ft. was carlos bledsoe in little rock, arkansas. both in 2009. walked into a army recruiting station and killed a recruiter just because he had a u.s. army uniform on. but we are doing a lot to deal with the lone wolf. the fbi which has developed an extraordinary domestic counterterrorism capability since 9/11 has various ways in which they look to apprehend, to catch, to be able to see a lone wolf before they strike. in the end, the best defense against a lone wolf always will be friends, family, people in the community who say something's wrong with this person, they're going bad. it is the old see something, say something, call the cops right away. >> senator joe lieberman, i got to leave it there. a man who's basically one of the founders of the homeland security department. always good to have your perspective on. >> good to be with you. >>> cities across the country on high alert this morning. we've seen it here in washington outside the white house, pennsylvania avenue's once again

or international, i guess the hi hybrid of those, chris, somebody in the states who like major nidal hasan at ft. hood receives their inspiration from the internet, from some, perhaps, islamic radicalized individuals. but we haven't seen americans build these type of devices, so we're starting to look internationally. the question is, as my good friend, larry, suggests, could it be just one lone wolf inspired by the internet? finding the formula to build these things on internet? or is it somebody who had some financial, if not some type of guidance from an international counterpart? >> so you're leaning toward the international possibility here. clint? >> yesterday i took it off the board. yesterday i was lone wolf, some timothy mcveigh type who built little pipe bombs. when i see these type of devices, if this is, in fact, the way they're described, to me it opens it up more for a potential either international or internationally inspired type of device. >> let's go to don clark, he's a special agent with the fbi. in the 1990s, the world trade center bombing, the first one. thank you for

whether they are born here as anwar al-awlaki or nidal hasan or brought here at young age like this guy 8 years old. brother 13 years old and radicalized as they matured, this is where it will come from. al qaeda has no capability right now to mount the sophisticated attacks. we have disrupted al qaeda central but it is the self-motivated radicals that are the new danger. >> bill: let's go to shepard smith in watertown, massachusetts. what say you? >> >> bill, a quick 10 minute drive over here from downtown boston on a night where the streets are still empty across. we were listening as you were to fox 25 here in boston as the word came down that, in fact, is he in custody and has been taken away from that scene. i think there are a lot of things we have yet to learn, bill. we don't know about the rest of that facility there. we don't know about these explosions that happened. we haven't yet heard from police on other matters regarding the possibility of these other three who were taken into custody tonight. two men and a woman for questioning. whether that is related or not remains to

army says awarding the medals would prejudice the trial of major nidal hasan.conservative analyst edie hill, magazine editor joe levy, ahmed shihab belden. i did get that right? i'm sorry about that. and lauren ashburn, editor in chief of the daily download. ahmed, let me begin with you, since i butchered your last name. it might prejudice the trial. do you think that's a fair argument? >> i'm really confused by the argument. it seems like the administration and pentagon are not consistent when it comes to how they interpret terrorism. i think it is important we remember that the government, you know, deemed this to be a work place violent crime as opposed to a terrorist attack. this was a situation where 13 u.s. servicemen were killed. there were 32 others that were injured and, you know what is worse is not just are we now going to be preventing people from having, you know, people who need it, people having medical veteran benefits because we're not going to be giving them purple hearts, but it really raises a broader question of how we interpret what terror

nidal hasan's rampage at fort hood in 2009, proceeded by his report alahu akbar, a that spoke nothing of militant islam, but referred to the incident as workplace violence. if tone is set at the top, recall that the army chief of staff at the time said the most tragic result of fort hood would be if it interfered with he army's diversity program. presumably the investigation into the boston terror attack will include inquiry into not only the immediate circumstances of the crime, but so who funded tamerlan tsarnaev's month-long so he journal abroad in 2012 and his comfortable lifestyle. did he have a supportive network? what training did he and perhaps his younger brother receive in the use of weapons? where did the elder of the two learn to make the suicide vest he reportedly wore? the investigation should include as well a deep dive into tamerlan's radicalization. the islamist references in the brother's social media communications and the jihadist websites they visited. will the investigation probe as well the f.b.i.'s own questioning of tamerlan two years ago at the behest of an u

well, sergeant alonzo, shot seven times by major nidal hasan, we thank you very much for sharinging yoursir. >> steve: what do you think about that? should he and the ot purple hearts? e-mail us. meanwhile, veterans are already frustrated because their benefits are back logged. now expect things to get worse. closer look why, coming up. and ainsley joining the greatest show on earth. she's testing out the wheel of steel, ainsley. >> hanging out with my fellow clowns and they want me to get in this. i'm not sure if i'm going to. we're going to try it. we're ready to go. stay with us. many cereals say they're good for your heart, but did you know ere's a cereal that's recommendedy doctors? it's post shredded wheat. recommended by nine out of ten doctors to help reduce the risk of heart dease. post shredded wheat is made with only one ingredient: one hundred percent whole grain wheat, with no added sugar or salt. try adding fruit for more health benefits and more taste in your bowl. it's the ideal way to start your heart healthy day. try post shredded wheat. this has been medifacts for post

. >> mayor, as far as i can tell, we knew about nidal malik hasan. we knew about the guy who shot up the recruitment station. now the third example where somebody has been investigated and the ball dropped. maybe the kid had a unusual relationship with his brother. it's absolutely insidious. i want to make a point here that -- >> going to one of the best schools in boston. >> he had every afforded luxury as somebody coming to the united states. my point is, is it right to be giving this much attention to these scum bags because it actually energizes other losers who see how easy it is to paralyze a city? we s there and keep showing these pictures. shouldn't we treat them like the dirt bags they are ask stop showing them? >> we should put equal emphasis to find out about them in advance. i'm not playing monday morning quarterback. any one of these attacks, i remember september 11, three, four days after september 11, you could pull out as dana will remember, you could pull out memos where if i had thought about t i could have predicted september 11. t

you'll recall that the fort hood shooting where the suspect in that case, nidal hasan, yelled allah akbarston marathon bombing came out and said this is an act of trosm on ou terrorr soil. we talked to one of the victims who was shot seven times. what was the distinction in his mind? he thinks there's no distinction and the administration should call what happened to him terrorism as well. listen. >> both events are terrorist acts, and if our commander-in-chief and our president called it a terrorist act, okay. then fine. make sure it's like that across the board. don't distinguish between the two because the difference between both events is that one, major hasan got his orders from someone on the warning list. again, it's a terror act and the fbi has proven it's a terrorist act. let's go ahead and call it what it is. stop being reactive. let's start being proactive. we have enough power and enough technology to where we can stop this from happening. >> one of the things that he suggested in terms of being pro active is at the finish line, they could have sealed off that block to make it

. >> mayor, as far as i can tell, we knew about nidal malik hasan. we knew about the guy who shot up the recruitment station. now the third example where somebody has been investigated and the ball dropped. maybe the kid had a unusual relationship with his brother. it's absolutely insidious. i want to make a point here that -- >> going to one of the best schools in boston. >> he had every afforded luxury as somebody coming to the united states. my point is, is it right to be giving this much attention to these scum bags because it actually energizes other losers who see how easy it is to paralyze a city? we sit there and keep showing these pictures. shouldn't we treat them like the dirt bags they are ask stop showing them? >> we should put equal emphasis to find out about them in advance. i'm not playing monday morning quarterback. any one of these attacks, i remember september 11, three, four days after september 11, you could pull out as dana will remember, you could pull out memos where if i had thought about t i could have predicted september 11.

anti--- >> i think -- >> steve: there is brett and he's talking about the similarities between nidal malik hasant comes to us from the father of the terrorists, accused terrorists. that is he says that the f.b.i. visited his family five times over two years. the f.b.i. says what are they talking about? we visited him one time. so there is a discrepancy. >> brian: one time i wish the family was right. i wish the family was right and the f.b.i. was seeing him. i have a hard time criticizing the f.b.i i don't know. i just think they've been extraordinary work. i'd love to expose a way for us to help them do their job better. they should come forward and say, unchain me, allow me to -- allow our people to do our jobs and stop worrying about political correctness, if that's a problem, which i heard it is. >> gretchen: it seems to be at the federal level that the political correctness seems to be more of a problem. because when you think of new york city and the am of potential attacks that this police department here in this city has thwarted, i think it's up to 16 since 9-11, i'm not so sure that th