last week my niece anastasia, we were watching television, bill widthers singing "ain't no sunshine when's gone". when we got in the car i put it on, anna, eight, says, can you put that o8my ipod. the point i'm making there is, i grew up with a daddy who played music while i was in the room. what he played got into my system. so, therefore, i'm more understanding of the spinners than i am with anybody in hip-hop. so you as parents in the room, going back to solution, you've got to ask yourself, when do i listen to music with my children? am i listening in the car? am i doing it there? am i doing it elsewhere? you start saying, wait a minute, maybe they listen to what they listen to because i'm not listening with them, so i'm not having an impact on what they are hearing. that could also be part of the problem. >> roland is making all the points i want to be making. >> sorry. >> that's all right. i want to jump in here as a female. >> doesn't that speak to what kim was suggesting and what i asked the audience at the outset? i will at times make our kids pull the ipods out and listen to my