and if yo the last 150 years, someone of the last 150 years, someone like a nietzsche or someone like the character and, like, um, uh, the character and, uh , ivan karamazov in uh, ivan karamazov in dostoevsky's brothers karamazov, they're driven by the kind of moral energy that sense that that that the world is structured in a, in a morally ordered way. there would have been completely unthinkable to a roman or to a greek. yeah. um, i think also of doctorate, the sort of the idea about equality, human equality, the human family, human rights, those are all humanist itself. those are bafic. all humanist itself. those are basic . those are that whole sort basic. those are that whole sort of structure is something that comes very much from judaism and from christianity. the idea that we are all, as it were, certainties , deep assumptions. certainties, deep assumptions. yeah. that's right, certainties, deep assumptions. yeah. that's right , that's right. >> i was thinking , and i only >> i was thinking, and i only really realised this relatively recently, that christianity was a kind of c