and then it was nigel farage who a lot of people were saying. what's he going to say about it?d it a spat. >> a spat. >> a spat. >> so did you see it as a spat or a catastrophic meeting between zelenskyy and trump? >> well, very diplomatic of nigel farage because of course, we know he's a huge ally and ffiend we know he's a huge ally and friend of the president of the united states. but it is incredibly difficult, i think, for the uk, particularly sir keir starmer, trying to be that bndge keir starmer, trying to be that bridge between europe and america. but i think yesterday anne pictures spoke louder than words. him leaving the downing street steps to greet president zelenskyy from from his motorcade and the crowds outside in whitehall. >> it was pretty unusual for the prime minister. usually the prime minister. usually the prime minister. usually the prime minister waits on the doorstep of number 10 for anyone to arrive, but keir starmer came out and walked down downing street towards president zelenskyy. >> he wanted him to be. he wants it to be symbolic, though. >> yes, i m