here it is. ♪ niggar niggar niggar ♪ >> what do you think when you see that?at somebody's trying to be sarcastic and play a joke on this old lady because she looks old and she looks like she's drunk. and i've seen that actually two years ago when that came out. and i didn't say anything about it because life is just so much bigger than that. life is so much bigger than that. it it's very hard like a rock and a hard place, and a catch 22 situation, when it comes to dealing with racism and that particular word. and when it comes to any racism in general. >> you said it's a catch 22. so someone like her, a white lady who said she's repeating the lyrics of your song and i debated all weekend, when i told people you were coming on all right, let me talk to you about this! first of all, do you think she's racist? or can you judge from that short clip? >> i think that she comes from racism. she's 79 years old. 79 years ago, whatever year that is she has seen tons and tons and tons of racist acts. i mean because of her age and seeing that right there, i don't think th

the word they were saying was niggar.s what they were saying we'll never have a niggar in sae. you were outraged when you heard and put out a video? >> yeah. i was angered. i was outraged. and kind of had a video that quickly showed my anger, but like i said i apologize for the prof anity, but i'm not apologizing about how i felt because that's how i felt in my heart. >> let's let our viewers look at the video and we'll let you talk about it a bit more. here it is. >> [ bleep ]. sae [ bleep ], all you white fraternities! [ bleep ]. >> you said these are the same people same mfers who are shaking your hand when you win a football game. >> yes. >> you feel betrayed? >> before we get started on questions, i just want to state here i'm speaking amongst all athletes here at the university. not just black, not just football players, this is everybody that i'm speaking for and, you know as athletes here we agree with president borne that we shouldn't tolerate that type of behavior here and it shouldn't be accepted. and david bor

williams asked him once had he ever considered how many blacks could be eliminated by killing one niggarknown to either side tolin was not his real name. in fact, he had a criminal record. he testified under a false name, had an extensive arrest record under his real name. >> i'm not sure that we knew all of that at the time or it was disclosed to us. >> rogers' home is eight blocks away from where he was found today. >> then the murder of larry rogers, a retarded youth. this witness testified she saw rogers slumped over in a station wagon as wayne williams drove away. but another person also saw rogers in that station wagon at that same intersection that day. he helped a police artist draw this sketch. it does not look like wayne williams. however, the defense never called the other witness to ask about the sketch. >> no. i don't even remember seeing that. >> supporters of wayne williams say there was one murder which shows the fiber evidence could be faulty. the death of 12-year-old clifford jones, left by a dumpster in an alley on a summer night in 1980. some of those unusual green ca