[inaudible] this nigger right here. this monkey right here. this monkey has nothing to live for. you monkeys have no upbringing. yeah, i have a home. he says not you. not you. you're different. i can tell by the way you walk and you know how to pronouncate words. you know what i am talk about michael. these niggers -- i [inaudible] and i was scared and i remember one at the station and looking at the partner and never said a world the whole ride and the partner -- [inaudible] and i almost cried when he said that. you're not going to speak up against this guy and i don't know and i know it's him because i saw him in 2011 [inaudible] and that name -- i will never forget the name [inaudible] >> do you know his budget number? >> yes, sir. i will never forget. >> okay. thank you very much. >> i want to share just one other statement. this is from ms. wheeler, a ph.d candidate studying in london now and had an incident with ian ferminger. >> please tell us your name. >> my name is nora wheeler. >> okay. how old are you? where do you live? >> i am 37 and i live in england at the moment.

so calling them enthusiastics-- just call them niggers. just call them niggers the. >> damn carl. i was just kidding about scaring the white lady. severuously, the last time a black guy-- a white shoved down a white woman on national tv kanye had to go into hiding for a year. i was kidding. well hey thanks to that clip, mr. stokes gets our straight up boss of the week award. that's right. you earned it carl. you earned it. but you know carl wasn't the first person to notice this new secret code word. >> i think it used to be the "n" word. now they are using thug instead of the "n" word. as a more accepted way of saying it. >> richard sherman should know, he's a thug. (laughter) >> larry: just kidding richard. you know you are my nigga! there's a difference guys. that's just sell antics. but not everybody understands that. >> now some people are suggest community leaders that we're thugs is-- the word thug is equiv lnt to the new n word. >> how orange is the new black, thug has became the new n word. >> some are saying the t word has replaced the "n" word. >> larry: okay, all right

so calling them thugs, just call them niggers, no. we don't have to call them by names such as that. we don't have to do that. that is exactly what we have set them to. now, when you say come on come on what? you wouldn't call your child a thug if they should do something that would not be what you would expect them to do. >> look i respect your point of view. i hope i would call my son a thug if he ever did such a thing. but congressman, let me ask you to respond to congressman stokes. do you think calling the bad actors last night thugs is the equivalent of the n-word? >> let me do something because it's important we not shift the foiks s focus into something that has nothing to do with poverty, despair despair, hunger homelessness and a sense of not belonging. whether we call them a thug a law breaker, a juvenile delink wnlt it doesn't matter. what matters is how do we take back the streets. that's what men have been doing, going around talking to the young men where they are in their face and letting them know you can't control th

my mum said not to play with you because you're a nigger. that's when i realised that's what this is all about, it's about me. >> race. >> yes, black and white, colour of my skin >>> tomorrow more of john's conversation with ruby bridges on what she things about race relations, ferguson and president obama. that's the news for that hour. thanks for watching. news continues next with antonio mora. ntonio mora. >>> the fog of war. >> we believed it was an al qaeda compound no civilians were present >>> a counterterrorism effort goes awry as a u.s. drone strike kills two hostages, including an american >>> mourning the victims. malta holds a mass funeral to honour hundreds of migrants who died in a sea of misery. >> running out of cash. >> translation: this is an emergency auction. we are talking about a small amount of money that

aftermath of world war ii, when black men came home after risking their lives only to be told they were niggers again. and then came the so-called civil rights era, whereas quickly we gained the civil rights in 1964, there was a counterrevolution. his name was richard nixon and he increased the number of police in the black community five-fold. but the guy named ronald reagan increased the sentences given out to black folks. then there would be a guy named bill clinton who said nobody would be tougher on crime than him. and then finally we got these failed wars on drugs which increases the number of interactions between black men and police. has there been an increase in police brutality? >> yes, sir, yes, sir. >> that is the verdict of the black community, which has had a direct experience that was hidden from you by cover-up after cover had-up after cover-up. you know, they used to get away with even lying about it. and there were a lot of people in this establishment to believe them over anybody black. thank god for cell phone video cameras. thank god for cell phone video cameras. because no

aftermath of world war ii, when black men came home after risking their lives only to be told they were niggers again. and then came the so-called civil rights era whereas quickly we gained the civil rights in 1964 there was a counterrevolution. his name was richard nixon and he increased the number of police in the black community five-fold. but the guy named ronald reagan increased the sentences given out to black folks. then there would be a guy named bill clinton who said nobody would be tougher on crime than him. and then finally we got these failed wars on drugs which increases the number of interactions between black men and police. has there been an increase in police brutality? >> yes, sir, yes, sir. >> that is the verdict of the black community, which has had a direct experience that was hidden from you by cover-up after cover had-up after cover-up. you know they used to get away with even lying about it. and there were a lot of people in this establishment to believe them over anybody black. thank god for cell phone video cameras. thank god for cell phone video cameras. because now t

intensified and it got worse after world war ii because all these gis who risked their lived got called nigger again when they went back to louisiana or mississippi or wherever they were from and that created the dawn of the civil rights movement that resulted in the passage. civil rights act in 1964 and 1965 but it's a history that's never been taught adequately to white people and even some of black people today have not been taught that history, and so this is not a new phenomenon. the police have always enforced the social norms as defined by white people and so that's why you don't hear protests about police brutality in white communities. it's virtually nonexistent, and you hear about it all the time in black communities because it has been a constant factor of black life from the beginning of our being imported into this country. and, look, all of us have had to train our male children to keep their hands on the wheel when the police officer comes, ask permission to move your hands so you can get your registration out of the glove box and so you can reach in your wallet for your license

. >> come on, so calling them thugs, just call them niggers. no.t have to call them by names such as that. we don't have to do that. >> karl stokes is a baltimore city councilman, "outfront" with us tonight. tara setmyer is a former communications director for a republican member of congress. i appreciate both of you being with us. karl that you can for coming back. i want to understand more about what you were saying. the president obviously you heard his spokesman stand big his use of what he described these rioters and looters as criminals and thugs. the merriam webster dictionary defines thug as "a violent criminal." you heard if it's arson or looting of a store, those are thuggish acts that fit the definition of the word. what is wrong then with what the president said? >> i have no problem with the president. as i said last night, no one can donees the criminal acts of those who participate in the looting, the fires, any of the criminal acts that went on. what i said was that we need to heal. and that many of these young people not the people

and i apologize to my brothers and sisters -- but they use this term back home -- "go hem, prairie niggers." that was last week. was anybody arrested or asked to leave the stadium? no, it happened after it appeared in the press. these things are happening a lot. i have young women and men that will always have a different perspective because of what happened to them last week. that cannot be allowed anymore. if you can have this kind of imagery and be ok with it, then american statistics polling say that is ok, i say does not. -- i say it's not. how many of us does it take to say no more? i guarantee that this was an african-american, you can find african-americans who would say this doesn't bother me. but you would also find ever -- african americans who would say no way will i allow this to happen to my people. we are just asking for more understanding. [applause] >> we want to thank you all for coming here and listening so carefully and participating in the conversation. the arizona state university college law program for organ is eyeing -- for organizing the event. thank you for comin

he called him a nigger, he called him this, he called him that. and they brought in lip readers -- [laughter] and the lip readers said yeah that's what he said he said he was a dirty arab. he said, you know, that's what they saw the lips saying. and to me, that was pass a nateing. it's like, you know everybody knows that racism is right under the surface of these interactions. and so the minute there is discomfort and confrontation, the language of racism comes in. it turns out that what he said was "your sister is a whore." and that, that is also fascinating because in writing about european racism it's been said the way the european will get at the algerian is by insulting the women in their families. so in a sense, he did enact a moment of racism in exactly the way it had been documented it would occur back in the 1940s when he wrote "black skip, white mask." -- "black skin white mask." so that's sort of my interest in sports. i'm also now interested in sports because i became interested in sports, you know how those things happen? in watching