this is not northbound lanes at -- near the nih campus and south of the beltway.here was a metro bus accident there and that is affecting traffic in the northbound and southbound lanes. we're told that 12 people were hurt, minor to life-threatening injuries and audrey barnes has an update for us. what else did you find out? >> reporter: you said it all. that is what we have been hearing here. it happened around 4:20 and in rockville pike. they're shut down for several blocks while the police continue to prepare the passengers and the people in the accident for transport. at least 12 people were hurt. some of the injuries are serious and the fire chief told us they haven't determined how the accident happened but that it involves a metro bus, a car, truck, and possibly several other vehicles and can you see they up ahead and there are a number of paramedics on the bus still and they're trying to treat the injured people. once they get them in a stable position, they're going to be transporting even more people to the hospital and there are a number of 4079 everies

it is just north of the nih campus. the driver of the pickup truck hopped the median and slammed into the j 9 bus just after 4:00 p.m. yesterday. the bus then crashed into a tree and the driver of the pickup dried. >> i see he breathe and one man tell me he breathe and i say gone. >> our collision reconstruction unit was called. >> eleven people were evaluated. the most seriously hurt was the bus driver. >>> four maryland teenagers are facing arson charges in a string of fires in urbana. investigators say they stole marine flares and used them to set two garages and a wooden deck on fire. all four have been released to their parents' custody. >>> police in cheverly, maryland are looking for a handful of burglars breaking into homes in recent months. this is surveillance video that shows one. break-ins that took place on november 18th. the burglars are stealing electronic device, jewelry, cash and credit cards. police are asking anyone who may recognize this man to give them a caw. >>> newt gingrich is lashing out saying

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if you would still like to help, go to the website and search nih. >>> and a fire onboard a submarine that left crew members in the cabin below. >>> and last chance. how the gop candidates are using these last days to win over potential voters. >> and nancy pa pelosi, is she >>> after burning through the night firefighters were able to exstring issue a fire aboard a nuclear submarine in russia. there were multiple crew members inside the subduring the fire but none was ever in danger. seven people including firefighters were taken to the hospital for somoke inhalation. >>> and then four days until the caucus candidates are scrambling for votes. new frontrunner, mitt romney is hoping to capture the hawkeye state. >> reporter: frontrunner, mitt romney, before another large crowd wednesday night, aimed to nail down his support, focusing his clothclosing argument on pa values. >> we want to instill in our kids a confidence in the future. if i become your president i will do everything in my power, to restore the principles, not to transform america into something new. >> romney was defeat

yesterday just north of the nih campus.river of the pickup truck hopped the median and slammed right into the j 9 bus. the bus then crashed into a tree and the driver of the pickup died. eleven people were evaluated. the most seriously hurt is the bus driver. >>> some other top stories we are following this morning, four maryland teenagers are facing arson charges in a string of fires in urbana. investigators say the 16-year- old stole marine flares from a wal-mart in frederick and used them to set two garages and a wooden deck on fire in the villages of urbana. all four have been released to their parents' custody. the charges will be rereferred to the state department of juvenile justice. >>> police in cheverly, maryland are looking for a handful of burglars who have been breaking into homes in recent months. it shows wurcht break-ins that took place on november 18th. the burglars are stealing electronic device, jewelry, cash and credit cards. another step shows wurcht suspects trying to sell one were stolen computers. --

take you to rockville pike in bethesda, maryland, where this accident scene played out north of the nih campus. you can see investigators are still on the scene there tonight. it looks like a wrecking truck has attached the bus to it and getting ready to pull off. we should also let you know that rockville pike is shut down in both directions. fox 5's audrey barnes is live with more details about what happened today. audrey. >> as you said, that accident reconstruction team is still here. they have to determine how a southbound pickup truck wound up in the northbound lanes of rockville pike and collided with a metro bus. and impact so great that bus went off the roadway and slammed into a tree. >> securing some loose items around his home in the wind when the metro bus went on to the property next door. police say at least ten passengers and a driver were on the j9 bus heading north to lake forest mall. when a southbound pickup truck hopped the median and slammed into them. >> all the people in the bus screamed. >> no sign of life from the pickup driver. >> i see if he is breathing, no

the fda lococation in monontgomery county as well as nih. mamany foreign companies like to haveor their entrees. >> they get cticized in tough budget times. what were you able to accomplish by going to india? >> when you come back with about $47 million in deals with the potential for more, i think we paid for that trip. we took a trip to sth korea a couple of yearsgo and were able to land some deals for mccumber county. >> you says in montgomery county already has a biotech reputation. you have teamed up with o other to fora partnership. what is that all about t and how can businesses bpartt of it? >>>> three component. with a government, the private sector and universities -- the government, the private sector, and universities. johns hopkins college park, right intthe montgomery county. >> doeses it offer pital? does it offer information resource >> it offers capapital entree and partnership with firms that want to d do business in the cnty and the opportunity to do research and development witith somof the institutions that t are involve

traffic back open in both direction along rockville pike in bethesda just north of the nih campus.r of the pickup truck hyped median and slammed into the j 9 bus just after 4:00 p.m. yesterday. the bus then crashed into a tree. eleven people on the bus were hurt. the bus driver had serious youries. >>> the his crimes put women at some of the area's most popular shopping spots on alert. now, fairfax county police believe they are closing in on johnny pimentel. he is accused of cutting win's rear ends while they shopped. -- women's rear ends while they shopped. police received information that he may be in peru. they are working with peruvian officials to find out if he can be arrested and brawl brought back to the u.s. >>> some good news for occupy d.c. protesters. they can stay in freedom park until february. >>> the latest now from the campaign trail. michelle bach minneapolis' campaign cochair has made the jump to representative ron paul's camp. in the meantime, texas governor rick perry has shift his stance on abortion now saying he supports abortion for a woman's life is at ris

reporter: sharon terry was part of the study group that urged the nih set strict new criteria. >> are to learn something really important here critical for human health in layperson's terms? is this something you can't ethically do in humans or you need to use the chimpanzee model and it's the only model? reporter: the ethical questions go beyond the world of medicine. >> i'm not a fan of this in a lot of ways and if we're going to have these animals here, we need to do something as far as education, not just have them be something to look at. our goal is to foster respect and understanding and i think that's one of the more important things to do. >>> tonight on the news edge a sex scandle unfolding in the district, a man running -- scandal unfolding in the district. a man running for a council seat busted in a prostitution sting. >>> plus a bicycle hit by a police cruiser. an eyewitness says it was the officer's fault. we'll explain at 11:00. [ f female announcer ] more people are using wireless devices... in more ways than ever. and our networks are getting crowded. but if congress

. >>> breaking news as we told you a few minutes ago, a major accident in bethesda near nih. the entire rockville pike closed downright at the peek of rush hour. good thing it's christmas week, i guess. anita. >> you can see all the rescue activity going on. several injuries involved in this accident on rockville pike. let's go to oscar garcia. good evening. what can you tell us? >> good evening. fire and rescue units were dispatched around 4:20 this afternoon for a collision. we did get on the scene. it was reported multiple vehicles. two vehicles taking the brunt of the impact. one of the vehicles is a metro bus. we are evaluating a dozen passengers to include the drivers. and we are going to be transporting at least ten. some with nonlife threatening injuries and three with serious life threatening injuries. apparently rockville pike north and southbound lanes are completely shut down between cedar and pookville road. this is 4:20 this afternoon. we have approximately 20 fire and rescue personnel. we did have to extricate patients from these vehicles. some proved challengi

to use. >> the nih director says chimps demand special consideration and respect because they are soar to humans and are rarely needed any longer to help develop new medicine. >>> a developing story tonight on the news edge at 11:00, people kept out of their homes for hours because of a standoff between police and gunmen. we're live at the scene with an update. >>> plus cutting down on violence at metrobuses, what's being done to protect you and the bus driver at 11:00. [ female announcer ] at verizonfios.com, you can choose your channel package. ♪ you can choose your own internet speeds. ♪ you can even choose to chat with a live person. ♪ now you can choose to save $35 a month for fios tv, internet and phone for just $79.99 a month, plus get a $300 verizon visa prepaid card with a 2 year agreement. but hurry, offer ends soon only at verizonfios.com. contact the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800-974-6006 tty/v. i sweated the details. all the phone calls, the emails, the lost weekends. and then after twenty-two years, just like that, i was laid off. today there are

you can see behind me, emergency crews are very much on the scene and rockville pike just north of nih is closed in both directions and we are told will be closed for some time to come. of course, as soon as we get anymore information, we'll pass it along. for now, let's go back to the studio. derek, anita. >> thank you, matt. >>> republican presidential hopefuls are canvassing iowa trying to swing support ahead of the caucuses. voters will convene next tuesday. rick perry, newt gingrich, and michele bachmann hitting city after city on bus tours. many iowa voters are undecided whom they will pick and less than a week, the candidate haves gone on the attack to get those folks support. >> i think ron paul's views are totally outside the mainstream. virtually every decent american. >> one of the people running for president thinks it's okay for iran to have a nuclear weapon. i don't. >> there aren't very many politicians who spent more time page off donors. >> well, newt gingrich may no longer be the front runner for the republican nomination. a new gallop daily tracking poll released thi

if it's a medical researcher at the nih. reporter: several senators said they weren't buying any of it. republican mark kirk says he's worried about starving the social security trust fund which takes revenue from the payroll tax and democrat joe manchin says the tax cut simply hasn't worked. >> we tried the payroll tax cut last year and i supported it, but i will not double down on a failed policy. reporter: in the house speaker john boehner says he favors an extension with one requirement. >> republicans are ready to work with the president and the democrats to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance temporarily, but they must be offset with spending cuts elsewhere. reporter: considering the $15 trillion growing debt, some lawmakers said a year after the bipartisan simpson bowles plan was unveiled it should have been adopted. >> yet that was rejected out of hand by the white house and others. reporter: with the failure of the republican and democratic plans tonight perhaps we're one step closer to compromise,

. >>> thousands of nih workers will be on the move. the workers at the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases are moving to a new complex being built next to the twin brook metro station in rockville. there was a groundbreaking ceremony on wednesday. ike leggett along with jbg real estate developers were on hand. the ten story building will be located on fisher's lane. >>> the montgomery county parks department has a plan to control the deer population at lago golf course. the course will be closed from 5:00 p.m. until sunrise january, february and march while sharpshooters reduce the deer population. the county says managing the deer population will decrease vehicle accidents involving deer. it will help with lyme's disease from deer born ticks. >> here is a look at the question of the morning. >> 66% of women never do one of these things. is it a, mow the lawn? b, clean their purse or c, shovel snow. >> log on to the facebook.com/wusa9 and leave your response. we'll reveal the answer during our 6:00 hour. >>> hello, ev

so that national institute on aging at nih, of the u.s.human services, created go4life. bud: i now excercise three times a week. narrator: featuring exercises you can do anywhere. irene: i can really go. narrator: find our more, visit nia.hih.gov/go4life. >> welcome back to "our world with black enterprise." are men and women equal in our society? where do we stand on genteder justice? here to talk about it is assistant professor of english and africana studies in university of pennsylvania and co-founder of "long walk home." award-winning filmmaker maker, and a kiba solomon. thank you all for joining us. >> thank you. >> there's so much conversation today about race. even if people don't like it they're talking about race, they're talking about poverty and economics. one thing that rarely gets talked about are issues of gender. what's going on? why is that? >> i think the basic answer to the question is that men and women, like you said, the question is part of the value the same and men and women aren't the same in our society and it's n

research funding is temporarily been barred and the new nih will be reviewing the ongoing project to see if they should be phased out. >>> ladies if you want to lose weight a women who cut back on carbs two days a week lost more weight than women who dieet full-time. brit shall researchers found women who avoided bread, pasta potatoes and rice two days a week and ate normally lost an average of 9 pounds during a 4- month period. women who were in full fledge diets over a 4 month period only lost 5 pounds. >>> looks like teens are counting calories after all. researchers have conducted an experiment posting three signs in a convenience store. one said the average bottle had around 250 calories of a soda drink. and the second said the bottle contained 10% of the teen's recommended a calories per day and the third said you have to jog 50 minutes to burn off the calories from the drink. now according to the information,40% of kids dropped the sugary soda and went with water or diet drinks. >>> parents are thinking about getting your child if you thinking about getting your child a tablet

others hospitalized after a metro bus collides with a pickup truck here on rockville pike just north of nih. both directions of the road are closed right now. have been for several hours and i'm told will continue to be closed. >> we heard from the eyewitness that the metro bus may have been cut off. any information on the involvement of the other possible vehicles involved in this accident? >> derek, here's what i'm being told. it's unconfirmed. the metro bus was heading southbound on rockville pike. the pickup truck was heading northbound and for some reason the pickup truck came into the southbound lane and cut off the metro bus. that is unconfirmed, but that is what some witnesses told the fire department and or the police department. >> all right, if that is true, that would account for the devastating nature of this crash. matt, thank you for that and we'll talk with you later on at 11:00. >>> okay, moving on to this. how many parking tickets did you get this year? new figures out today say d.c. issued nearly 2 million parking tickets over the last 14 months. the only other cities wit

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bethesda is clear a driver of a pick up truck crossed the median and slammed into a metro bus, north of nih campus the bus crashed into a tree the driver of the pick up was killed 11 people onboard the bus were treated the bus driver suffered the most serious injuries. >>> let's get a check on traffic from lauren demarco. >>> hey, thank you sherry was just reporting from that scene in silver spring as she said the south or eastbound lanes of university boulevard remain blocked at tiny branch let's take a live look from sky fox they have been flying over the same scene as well inside the belt way, in silver spring. want to talk about alternate routes if you are trying to make that trip inbound, new hampshire avenue, colesville, georgia avenue, silver spring area the northbound or westbound lane of university boulevard, headed out bound, they have been open the inbound lanes are blocked maybe some time we will keep you updated on that. let's head out to traffic land see what else is going on. accident montgomery county, rockville pike. veers mill also blocked see activity middle of the inters

yesterday, that is north of the nih campus, the bus then crashed into a tree, the driver of the truck was killed. in all 11 people onboard the bus were treated all lanes on rockville pike are open. >> no charges will be filed in connection with a deadly accident in northern virginia. 89-year-old tried to make a u turn travelling along westbound i-66 a pick up truck couldn't stop in time and crashed into her car killing her. >>> four maryland teens are facing arson charges in a string of fires in our vanna. investigators say the 16-year- old stole marine flairs from a wal-mart in frederick and used them to set two garages and a wooden deck on fire. all four have been released to their parents custody the charges will be referred to the state department of juvenile justice. >> police are looking for a handful of burglars, breaking into homes in recent months the burglars are stealing electronic devices jewellery, cash and credit cards another surveillance tape seen here shows one suspect trying to sell one of the stolen computers police are asking anyone who may recognize this man to gi

. >> reporter: the accident happened right around 4:15 this afternoon, just north of nih where you can see the road is closed in both directions and will be for several hours to come. several vehicles were involved, including a metro bus with passengers on board. about 10 people have been taken to the hospital with various injuries. one person is confirmed dead and emergency crews just got the driver of that mangled metro bus out of the bus after a lengthy extraction process. emergency crews are still very much on the scene. rockville pike is closed in both directions and we are told will be closed for some time to come. as soon as we get anymore information, we'll be sure to pass it along. for now, let's go back to the studio. >>> lost in a three-way battle. republican candidates are criss crossing iowa and taking shots at each other. >> reporter: the ground war in iowa is under way. gingrich is off on a 22-stop bus tour and he says he's taking the high road. >> the only person helped by negative ads is barack obama. >> reporter: the other candidates are still slamming him with negati

i was from a very senior person at the nih was expecting the question.-span: what is your reaction to people like me who come to your part, want to sit and talk to you. you know why we are here. we want to hear this story. you've had a bench here. are you surprised at that? >> guest: a little bit. yes, i was. but a lot of it i know has been to do with my stance on religion and a very large number of people have asked me, doesn't it change your attitude to the eternal, supernatural and so forth. i said i really don't see why it should. i've never thought of it is a particularly searching question. i spent a lot of my life deciding that there isn't any redemption, that there is no salvation, that there is no afterlife, there is no supervising boss. if i was to tell you now i've got a malignancy in my esophagus, that changes everything, you would think i hope it did mean effect had been on my i.q. so i've enjoyed taking part in that argument. and there's a certain ghoulish even about the nice people who have been praying for me because they are not prayed f

we go inside the nih blood bank. >> reporter: huge success at the national institutes of health bone marrow matching program means more patients are getting transplants, while they usually perform two transplants a week here in the past few weeks they've had ten. with those procedures comes the need for blood and platelets, small cells that help blood clot. >> we are in urgent need. >> reporter: the atrium is filled with decorations but their blood bank could use a little extra love this holiday season. >> part of the holiday season that giving part seems to be missing. >> reporter: all blood and platelet donations made here stay here. the blood bank typically collects 30 pints of whole blood every day for those undergoing treatment or recovering from transplants. because of the additional transplants right now they need 40. >> patients' ill-ins, blood diseases don't respect the holidays. they don't know when holidays come or go. these patients needed the transplants performed urgently. they couldn't wait. without transfusions they will not make it through this period. >> reporter: t

we go inside the nih blood bank. >> reporter: huge success in the national institutes of health bonemarrow matching program means more patients are getting more transplants. in the past few weeks they have had ten. with those procedures comes the need for blood and platelets. >> we are in an urgent need. >> reporter: the atrium is filled with christmas trees, menorahs and gingerbreads. >> the giving part seems to be missing. >> the blood that is given here stays here. they collect 30 pints of blood every day. because of the additional transplants, right now, they need 40. >> patients with blood diseases don't respect the holidays. the patients needed the transplants performed urgently. without transfusions they will not make it. >> repter: terry has been donating for 37 years. his healthy son eric was diagnosed with aplastic anemia. >> i'm typed to patients. a lot of times my blood goes to the patients i'm typed with. it goes to somebody that needs it right away. >> reporter: donating is relatively easy. they take you to a cubicle. this is where they will take a quick health history.

the nih was desperate for blood. since then, there was a huge increase in donors. there was a record number of bone marrow transplants. without those transfusions, patients would not make it through that process. >> i wouldn't want my birthday on the same day every year. >> sometimes you want a saturday. >> a weekend. >> it's never going to happen. >>> coming up on news 4 at 5:00, releaseed from the hospital with mortal injuries. a family demands answers. doctors missed warning signs that might have saved their relatives life. >>> it's a mystery inside a thrift shop. someone left a large amount of cash inside donated items. i'll have that story coming up. >>> a -dad, why are you getting that? -that's my cereal. is there a prize in there? oh, there's a prize, all right. is it a robot? no. is it a jet plane? nope. is it a dinosaur?] [ male announcer ] inside every box of heart healthy cheerios are those great tasting little o's made from carefully selected oats that c help lower cholesterol. stickers? uh-uh. a superhero? ♪ kinda. [ male announcer ] and we think that'

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. >> reporter: she was part of the study group that urged the nih set strict new criteria. >> in lay person's terms, are you going to learn something important here that is critical for human health? is this manage you can't ethically do in -- this something you can't do in humans and have to use chimps? >> the ethical questions go beyond the world of medicine. >> i'm not a fan and if they're going to have the animals here, we need to do something as far as education and not for people to look at. our goal is to foster respect and understanding. >> bob barnard, fox 5 news. >>> here's a question for you? have you heard of tebowing? why this has some students suspended and, yes, it has to do with tim tebow, the quarterback. >>> and plus, the borderline creepy. we'll show you more of the bizarre prank involving blind folded students and their parents. rents. >> this is brian santiago from germany. i am sending out the holiday wishes to my family in fort belvoir, virginia. i love you, wendy hanibal. have a great christmas and happy new year.  >> put your hands together fo

if it's a medical research at the nih. if it's someone working in a veteran's hospital a doctor, a nurse. those are the people whose jobs they would do away with for the payroll tax cut. >> but the democratic plan is not expected to pass either. so perhaps after tonight, there will be a serious effort at compromise. >> shep: they're supposed to vote in the senate on a defense spending bill. any hope of a passage there? >> well n a procedural vote, it passed 88-12, which these days is huge. it's a $662 billion package. it would fund troop pay raises, weapon systems, the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the controversial provision is about detainee matters in terms of it has language in it saying anybody who is a suspected terrorist should be held by the united states military. the white house doesn't like that because it says it eyes the president's hands in terms of fighting terrorism. the president has threatened to veto. we will see. >> shep: mike emmanuel, live on capitol hill. thanks. there is some mystery now in the effo

but the nih considers it important to publish the over all findings of the research in scientific journal>> nasa say there are 2 new planet. first earth size plan thaet orbit around a star leak our sun. hears how they stack up in size to earth and venus respectively. they are the smallest orbiting planet ever found outside our solar system. both were found by the keepler space telescope. however, unlike the planet discovered by keepler few weeks ago, these new planet can not support life. one has surface temperature of 1400 degrees. that's hot enough to melt glas glass. >>> back here at home. street in san francisco bay view district is now beingthe greenek in the city. mayor lee cut the ribbon to commemorate the newcomb avenue sceet escape model block im practice. project. say that three times fast. 1.7 million dollar project feature as host of safety and green features among them more trees and plantar bo boxes new storm drain and raised crosswalk to promote pedestrians safety. >> if santa l has a choice for what street he's going to visit first, i think he's going to come right to newc

tony fouchy of nih and getting his advice of that balancing. >> because we are talking again about ahat potentially kills people and spreads through the air more quickly, something that the h5n1, something we studied in the past could not do, at the heart of that, do you believe whether it's in the lab documents or published studies, whatever, does it need to be out there? do labs like yours need to be able to see this to help combat a potential pandemic? >> look, what we do with forecasting, a number of our partners do, we do surveillance. biological surveillance around the world trying to detect pandemics before they occur. clearly understanding what particular elements of a virus can cause it to spread, cause it to be pdeadly are pivotal to us. part of our challenge, how do we go through the specimens when we see an outbreak occurring in the field, how do we know it's going to spread? and there is a very important element. you are talking about really sort of this careful balance between risk and benefit and i think there's clear agreement with everyone that we completely underest

they are not competitive because the scientist who discovers their drug admits in an application to nih which siga provided to drew that the drug, their smallpox antiviral, causes toxicity in the gastrointestinal tract, so there is no competition. and when the government finally awards the sole source contract to the only company that has a smallpox antiviral, what do they do? they also give a research and development grant to chimerix saying they want to encourage competition and they don't give at ward of the contract for the entire requirement. that is another 12 million doses of smallpox antiviral. they decide they're not going to decide that and give chimerix an opportunity to fix their drug so they can be competitive. so the government has bent over backwards to balance the need for an antiviral against competition. i sat in the seat when i was at the white house. these are difficult decisions. what you're trying to balance is the safety of the american people and competition, i think they did the right thing and they did make an award that allows them to stockpile some, while all

tony fauci of nih and i'm getting his advice of that balancing. >> because we are talking again aboutirus, nathan, that potentially kills people and spreads through the air more quickly, something that the h5n1 that you and i studied in the past could not do, at the heart of that, do you believe whether it's in the lab documents or published studies, whatever, does it need to be out there? do labs like yours need to be able to see this to help combat a potential pandemic? >> look, what we do at global viral forecasting, a number of our partners do, we do surveillance. biological surveillance around the world trying to detect pandemics before they occur. clearly understanding what particular elements of a virus can cause it to spread, cause it to be deadly are very, very pivotal to us. we're sitting with hundreds of thousands of specimens and part of our challenge, how do we go through the specimens when we see an outbreak occurring in the field, how do we know whether it's going to spread. and there is a very important element. you are talking about really sort of this careful balance

c-span: say you get your chemo treatment at nih?guest: no, i've had various tests there but i go to my regular on quote just they bring in, called dr. smith, in bethesda, who consults over the internet with a panel of like-minded experts come and take work out a protocol for me and adjusted every few weeks. c-span: and the "vanity fair" december issue, you wrote about a woman who get to you -- came up to you when you were signing books. she starts off by saying -- i've got it here in case. tell what happened. >> guest: this is a book to have cancer and it published which i might do, in books after the event about islam. others longline. a woman at the front doesn't even have a book, says [inaudible] she said a cousin of mine had cancer. i said i'm sorry to hear that. yes, and the liver. i said that's dreadful. that's awful. and she said but he got better. i said good. and then she said but he got much worse again. and i said i'm sorry. and she said of course he was a homosexual. i wasn't going to say of course. and all his fans and

this is a test which nih, the national institute of health has actually approved this screening and thenside line and playing on the sports team, we want you back in the starting lineup as soon as possible and your job is to go to physical therapy rehab. let's get you back on the playing field so the idea is unemployment insurance is not a retirement benefit. we want you back in the workplace. >> think a lot of people agree with that, and a lot of people would agree that taxpayer money should not go to someone using drugs. we would like to eliminate that altogether. >> for those people who feel like you're demonizing a class of people who are already beat up by this economy in some ways through no fault of their own struggling. you want me back in the game, but you're almost accusing me of using drugs before you let me back in the game. >> those who accuse that may want to look at themselves in the mirror. that goes back to the bigotry of low expectations. it's really kind of the patronizing that people say these poor folks who were unemployed and they're on drugs and here comes this hor

nih priority setting processes that have been used since the beginning depend on a panel of experts, we call this process peer review for setting priorities. we go through and of the 3,000 study that's we funded approximately, the ones that you're mentioning and that are mentioned by our critics are really not representative. we have taken on a lot of important safety issues and eye lot of issues around herb drug interactions, for example, work funded by ncam studies that st. john's wort interferes with hiv therapies and the dangers of ee fed ra and led the fda to withdraw it from the u.s. market. even more important, work on pain management and important studies that show that some of the complimentary approaches are helpful in management of pain is changing how doctors and patients approach a very big and common problem, chronic back pain. it is a big focus for us right now. >> obviously you're both very passionate about where you stand. we appreciate your time. we will continue to follow this research and see what more does come of it. for more on the research and budget, check ou