fauci and received millions of nih funding.th: the issue here, it wasn't just the wuhan lab in china doing the research. there were multiple labs, at a university and china's version of the cdc. so the question is that being used, that fact to cloud the issue? let's watch dr. fauci on camera back in 2012. watch this. >> the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> do they fund dr. baric? >> dr. baric is not doing gain of function research. if it is, it is according to the guidelines. because the research gain of function, trans missability, et cetera on h5n1 pathogenic is minor part but a important part of our portfolio. it is part of four research projects that contain this, it is around 10% of the entire h5n1 portfolio. less than 1% of the total niaid flu research funding. questions have come up about the concern of danger of people you fund. niaid, nih, certainly cdc, only funds and conducts gain of function research on h5n1 highly pathogenic avian influenza viruses for rese

what is the nih doing right now or what's the current status of nih research to better understand long covid to look at symptoms and potential treatments? >> there are several levels of activity going on. some new since we spoke last. i had mentioned to you, senator, that in fact there was a 1.15 billion program for studying long covid that is now developing co-horts to look at various incidences, prevalences pathogens and potential interventions. a number of awards that have been given, most recently in september there was an additional $470 million funding supported through the american rescue plan engaging about 100 researchers from 30 institutions to get individuals together. one of the things that is really interesting that we're seeing right now is that when you look at individuals who have these symptoms that go on as you know and have experienced yourself, for a considerable period of time a recent study that is in the pre-print stage, so it hasn't been peer reviewed, has some very interesting information. it was an autopsy study in people who had varying levels of covid from r

the cdc and the nih obviously decided on judgment before verdict. coming out of the lab. they had their narrative that they had looked at it very carefully and had their motive. dr. collins email that you disclosed in the "special report" that in the interest of science and international harmony, basically we have to stop this story. the next question is what did they tell the white house? president trump was taking all the arrows on their behalf. he defended the cdc when they botched the testing. he defended the cdc at every turn. but now we have a record that you have exposed tonight and we will see what people say tomorrow, of a cover-up that is at least as damning as any i have heard of in the last few years. >> bret: all right. listen, we will stay on this story. the big thing about going forward is trying to fight this and morgan, there is this battle over monoclonal antibodies whether they should be approved. the florida governor saying it's being shut down. the next step is really important. >> paul mango, who was the chief of staff to azar

you actually published in part an email from former nih director francis collins to dr. fauci from april 16, 2020, and the subject line reads conspiracy gains momentum, referring to that lab leak hypothesis. this is from collins. i'm wondering if there is something nih can do to put 24 very destructive conspiracy down with what seems to be growing momentum. i hope the nature article on the genomic sequence would settle this. it's a shiny object that will go away in time. congressman, it was a bad bet. didn't go way but the most significant question you pose in your email is did they alert anyone in the white house or hhs about this lab leak theory, and if not, all these prominent people suggested it on february 1. why did they not? . >> that's the million dollar question. why didn't they do that? anyone that suggested this was manmade or this could have been leaked from the wuhan lab was shot down by dr. fauci. chastised by him and the liberal news media. dr. collins was trying to spin this with the public. they were watching the press and they were concerned that americ

web site and going to nih. of and then the guidelines panel. people can get a good idea from clinicians throughout the country in the world of how to use these antivirals. >> i want to follow up and i'm grateful to the administration my call to send teams to administer covid-19 treatment however it seems weu. are delayd and are scheduled for sure period at times so. or fauci what additional personnel are you planning to provide to help treat covid-19 patients in the most effective way possible? >> well there are several things and perhaps assistant secretary can answer. i can start off by saying there are surge teams right now, at least 60 surge teams that have been deployed to help those areas that have difficulty because of the surge and the fewer volume of cases to be all the handle them with regard to rethink from hospitalizations to treatment and other implementations. >> i appreciate that. secretary o'connell is in a good position to follow-up and i'd like to follow up after the hearing. i want to ask a q

>>laura: senator paul hammered fauci about his with nih director francis collins to smear a prominent group of anti lacto and scientists as fringe lunatics. fauci offered no disk defense o this disgusting behavior. >> in an e-mail exchange you conspire and i quote here directly from the e-mail to create a quick and devastating published takedown of three prominent epidemiologist from harvard, oxford, and stanford. you think it's appropriate to use your $420,000 salary to attack scientists that disagree with you? can get the e-mail you're referring to is an e-mail of dr. >>laura: look at the semantics game he tries to play. even if he didn't send the e-mail, he didn't disavow it or tell collins not to smear fall fellow scientist. instead he sent an e-mail with link bolstering the attack on a group of highly respected epidemiologist. one of them joins me now. he has been in a crying room ever since he heard about this fauci attack on the declaration that he signed came from medica professor, your reaction to fauci semantic game and really the important issue of what he tried to do to al

from the nih.g off people to say the narrative he wanted said? and is he>> protecting? >> we do not know for sure but all we know that fact seems to suggest that m very point. they sit comes from a lab, that is where the evidence points but suddenly changes they switch 180 degrees, write the article, dr. fauci then uses the article to go out until the country, to tell the american people frankly the world no, no, no it did not come from a lab. the big take away i have is this is the pattern we seen from the biden administration from the left. this is the template they use but frankly we sought this past week the department of education actually went to the national school board association, asked them to ssend them the letter so they have the pretext to go do what they want to do. mainly attacked moms, dads, parents running up the school board meetings. jimm coming to the same thing frankly a few years ago he knew the dossier was bogus but that was the pretext for him to go do what he wanted to do

>> that's what the i-tap program over at nih is doing. they're actually doing the laboratory and clinical testing for the manufacturers. and then they send us the data. and so it's standardized and it's a panel. and that is really accelerating our ability to get these authorized very quickly. as i said earlier, we have authorized them within two days of getting the data from the i-tap program. so that's a tremendous set-up that i think is really beneficial, where we have standardized testing by scientists and the government, and that enables the manufacturers to get their products through very fast. >> thank you. ms. o'connell. >> thank you, senator. and just to pick up where dr. woodcock left off, once those tests are authorized, asper reaches out to the manufacturers to make sure that we're optimizing the manufacturing capabilities. so that part is sort of a seamless process that we have. but all of the work we're doing in testing in this administration is in service of four priorities. one, to expand the number of testing sites that ar

the nih. paying off people to say the narrative he wanted said, and is he protecting the ccp? >> look,ing we don't know for sure, but all i know is that fact pattern seems to suggest that very point. i mean, they say it comes from a lab, that's where the evidence points. it suddenly changes, they wish 180 degrees, write the article. dr. fauci then uses that article to go out and tell the country, to tell the american people, frankly the world, no, no, no, it didn't come from a lab. so the big takeaway i have, maria, this is the pattern we see from the biden administration, from the left. this is the template they use. frankly, we saw it this past week. the department of education actually went to the national school boards association, asked them to send the letter so they have the pretext to go do what they wanted to do; namely, attack moms, dads and parents who are showing up at these school board meetings. jim comey did the same thing, frankly, a few yearing ago -- years ago. he knew the do

what is the nih doing right now or what is the current status of nih's research to better understand long covid to look at symptoms and potential treatments? >> there are several levels of activity going on. some new since we spoke last. i had mentioned to you, senator, that, in fact, there was a 1.15 billion program for studying long covid that is now developing cohorts to look at various incidences, prevalences, pathogens. there was an additional $470 million funding supported through the american rescue plan engaging about 100 researchers from 30 institutions to get individuals together. one of the things that is really interesting that we're seeing right now is that when you look at individuals who have these symptoms that go on, as you know, and have experienced yourself for a considerable period of time, a recent study that is in the preprint stage, so it hasn't been peer reviewed, has some very interesting information that needs to be validated and verified. it was an autopsy study in people who had varying levels of covid, from relatively mildly symptomatic to moderately symp

what is the nih doing right now or what is the current status of nih's research to better understand long covid to look at symptoms and potential treatments? >> there are several levels of activity going on. some new since we spoke last. i had mentioned to you, senator, that, in fact, there was a 1.15 billion program for studying long covid that is now developing cohorts to look at various incidences, prevalences, pathogens. there was an additional $470 million funding supported through the american rescue plan engaging about 100 researchers from 30 institutions to get individuals together. one of the things that is really interesting that we're seeing right now is that when you look at individuals who have these symptoms that go on, as you know, and have experienced yourself for a considerable period of time, a recent study that is in the preprint stage, so it hasn't been peer reviewed, has some very interesting information that needs to be validated and verified. it was an autopsy study in people who had varying levels of covid, from relatively mildly symptomatic to moderately symp

and it's not just the nih leadership.it's the broader scientific community that decided in a really antiscience way, that there was only one way we were going to let people think about this. they were concerned that if this thought this may have come from science in a laboratory, that, that would harm science. and they were trying to protect science. >> martha: did they think it would harm science? or did they think it would throw shade on them and their relationship that the nih and funding and money that went to these experiments, you know, juicing up these viruses, coronavirus in this lab? >> well, there is no question that there is that complicating factor, also as you know as this research was funded by the nih, but i really do believe that the real goal behind this was a fear of hurting science and the power of science and the ability of science and what it can contribute to society. in reality, they accomplished the opposite. i thi science has been very harmed by this. and i think, you know, i'm still going to be a

i don't understand why the nih is not involved in this.tates said that they were going to back giving the technology away to other countries. but meanwhile, moderna, which was developed by the nih, is not exporting either its technology, its infrastructure, or its vaccines. millions of vaccines are being thrown away here. and if people out there wonder what we are doing with these variants, well, omicron came from africa. and delta came from india. if we could vaccinate the world, and not necessarily export all the vaccines although, again, we are wasting a lot, we could definitely decrease the risk of further variants emerging. it is so important. we are part of the global community. i want nih to be at the front of this. >> bret: dr. marc siegel. as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> bret: up next, new details on democrats and republicans messaging strategies heading into this year's midterms. >> 5, 10, 30% basic american staples, household items, those are the things that win elections. ♪ ♪ with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. v

elizabeth: nih is not studying that. that is important point you're making later in the show.1 different experiments successfully turned normal virus into supercharged pathogens. dr. fauci says they are doing oversight. they are highly regulated. he testifies that he can't track it all. he tells "the wall street journal" it is impossible for us to be aware what wuhan lab bass doing with this research. so you see, it is on the one hand, on the other hand. how can he get away with this kind of doublespeak an double-talk? now he is saying children four and younger should get three doses when those clinical trials are not proven out, still underway. >> using our kids as guinea pigs. that age group is not susceptible to serious illness. less than one/1000th percent of deaths in the united states were kids of that age group and most of the kids that had died had other coexisting condition we're finding out. even the cdc admitting, all the covid deaths they reported they came to the hospital with heart attack and reported they died of covid. we don't need to experiment on kids. they

nih funds $40 billion in applied research every year. a lot of this comes out of public research institutions. usually it's through private companies. in many cases, with myriad genetics, which came out of the university of utah, the exclusive licensing agreement was signed years before the june was actually discovered. this does get money into the r&d cycle. it does to some degree advanced discovery. on the other hand, it puts valuable resources into the hands of for-profit companies as opposed to universities that presumably have a public mission that they are supposed to be fulfilling. my colleague has written about this. we feel this is some degree and abdication of public missions when they transfer to a public/private entity that does not have the same public missions. susan: let's get into the story of the case. how did the publisher get interested in patent challenges? jorge: he did indirectly. i had the privilege of interviewing him for his book and he is an impressive guy. he took over the reins of the aclu. one of the outcomes

it's the taxpayers to really funding the agencies, hard earned taxpayer dollars on siteo like cdc, nihal but they are transparent and i've had too many examples in leading the energy and commerce committee where they've not been responsive to letters, they've not answered simple questions even what was going on at the owuhan mob taxpayer dollars usd to fund activities of the wuhan mob or why certain decisions were made in conflict with the world health organization. they're just too many examples that have resulted in trust being broken so i would urge the leadership in these agencies to be transparent and the accountability over how taxpayer dollars have been used, the importance of following the science and that is a mantra but also i believe we've seen sites evolve and we continue to learn and we need to be open to where the science is evolving and making sure we are being transparent with americans along the way. >> and i think part of the issue you are raising, between speed and immediacy and the need to collect data and ensure we seen the drug approval process trying to interpret

what is the nih doing right now or what's the current status of nih research to better understand long covid to look at symptoms and potential treatments? >> there are several levels of activity going on. some new since we spoke last, i had mentioned to you, senator, that in fact there was a 1.15 billion program for studying long covid that is now developing cohorts to look at various incidents and potential interventions. there have been a number of awards given. most recently in september there was an additional $470 million funding engaging about 100 researchers from 30 institutions to get individuals together. one thing that's really interesting that we're seeing right now is that when you look at individuals who have these symptoms go on for a considerable period of time, a recent study that is in the preprint stage, so it hasn't been peer reviewed, has some very interesting information that needs to be validated and verified. there was an autopsy study in people who had varying levels of covid to mildly to moderately symptomatic to individuals who actually died. they found not re

we know he was less than honest thanks to the intercept, thanks to the nih's own materials, and thinksthe emails we have from dr. fauci. and in fact knew more about the wuhan virology lab that he let on and the origins of the virus and nih money went to that wuhan virology lab. what did we learn about his investments? >> i think we lower the target based upon dr. fauci's defensive posture and visibly shaking during that period this weekend, we are able to prove that dr. fauci was wrong, that he lied to congress, he lied to the american people about the public accessibility of his finances, but now we know why. dr. fauci and his spouse made almost $2 million during 2020. so during 2020, you recall if you are a bartender or a barber, you could make a living, but dr. fauci managed to squeeze together almost $2 million. and as you know, you alluded to it earlier in your show, a significant amount these vestments are investments in china, and hong kong. so we are over the target, we are drilling down, and another great issue on dr. fauci -- hope to talk to you about that someday as well. >>

these are hard earned taxpayer dollars funding agencies like cdc, fda, nih, and it is fundamental that they are transparent. i have had too many examples in leading the energy and commerce committee that has jurisdiction over these agencies where they have not been responsive to letters, they have not answered simple questions about what was going on at the wuhan lab, and u.s. taxpayer dollars being used fund activities at the wuhan lab, or why certain decisions were made that were in conflict with the world health organization. there has been too many examples that have resulted in trust being broken. so, i would urge leadership at these agencies to be transparent , and accountable over how taxpayer dollars have been used, and the importance of following the science that has been a mantra. we have seen science evolve, we continue to learn more and we need to be open to where the science is evolving, and making sure we are being reds parent with ms -- being transparent with americans. caitlin: the pandemic has raised the tension between immediacy and the need to meticulously collect da

fauci's nih is blocking and stonewalling "the washington post."hey spent tens of millions of dollars on you super dangerous virus research in places like china. more flip-flopping from dr. fauci. more rules for thee, not for me. democrat alexandria ocasio-cortez getting blasted not wearing a mask in florida after cortez slammed florida. we have this story, even progressives want to replace biden with their own far left candidate on the 2024 democrat candidate ticket. will we see more jockeying for power and voter alienation? will it get worse. reports that nancy pelosi will retire after the midterms according to the washington post. first time ever, fentanyl outpaces heroin seized at border. crime in u.s. cities is growing fueled by drug gangs. more families find their loved ones are getting sick dying from fentanyl in fake prescription drugs. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: happy new year, everybody, thanks for joining us. we're going to start with this, more than 14 million under

open the books.com is suing nih for these records. that is how locked down they are.ry, his investments whether or not he is getting royalties on things like patents for drug, interluken, hiv drug was getting royalties to that. says he is donating it to charity. we don't know anything about his conflicts of interest. >> not at all. interesting we're looking at stock transactions with members of congress, we have a federal bureaucrat, one of the highest paid, from what we know he is making over $400,000 a year. that is elite status, also cashing in on various you know medical drugs and medical discoveries. who knows what he is cashing in on now, what he has done during the pandemic. i would like to know especially in the last two years. this is really somethingly i think the oversight committee on our side of the aisle will drill down on. the democrats don't want to talk about it. this cult of personality dr. fauci being their hero. the mia covers it up, media doesn't get into it. i think at some point the emperor has no clothes for dr. fauci, and they will have to pay

you are not going to believe the latest sick, twisted experiment all paid for by tony fauci's nih. ♪trient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. "preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies" "and its from the eye experts at bausch and lomb" so, ask your doctor about adding preservision. and fill in a missing piece of your plan. like i did with preservision" ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. (gasps) ♪ did it work? only pay for what you need ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ spider-man no way home in theaters december 17th ♪ >> rachel: we told you on this show about how anthony fauci's nih group funded deadly agreements on beagles and those horrific scenes from monkey island. now we discovered something much more disturbing. a twisted experiment to create trans gender monkeys. according to a new report fauci's nih spent over $200,000 for research

the nih put an investment into this of 3.2 billion dollars for coronavirus research since the pandemic began. a subset of that is coronavirus vaccine research. thus far, it is one and a half billion dollars. we have investments that are based in research awards of about $43 million. that is before academic institutions doing research to develop from funding that has gone on over the past couple of years. these are just a few of the scientific reports of examples of candidates so that clinical in other small animals as well as nonhuman primates, as well as getting ready and already in phase one trial. these are based on a concept of looking at a vaccine construct. i asked in a previous white house press briefing when i described mrna, and one can look at it as a vaccine platform. the platform we talk about right now is the mrna. the vaccine immunogen is that protein in its pre-fusion stabilized form. here are two examples of what is going on now. for example, a number of groups have used the nano particle approach which is the platform. the immunogen of the spike fragments that were put

the nih put an investment into this of 3.2 billion dollars for coronavirus research since the pandemic began. a subset of that is coronavirus vaccine research. thus far, it is one and a half billion dollars. we have investments that are based in research awards of about $43 million. that is before academic institutions doing research to develop vaccines which we mention. already, they have had results of funding that has been gone for the past couple of years. these are just a few of the scientifically important examples of promising candidates for free critical, naming amounts, small animals, as well as nonhuman primates as wells getting ready for the phase i trials. these are based on a concept of looking at vaccine constructs. i've said in the press briefing when i described mrna, one could look at it as a vaccine platform. or vaccine imaging. currently, we as we talk about it, there is mrna. vaccine immunity. despite proteins in a pre-fusion stabilize form that serves as the basis for the mrna and other vaccines. here are two examples of what is going on now. for example, a number

. >> do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect. >> dr. fauci, i don't expect you today to admit that you approved of nih funding for gain of function research in wuhan. but your repeated denials have worn thin and a majority of americans frankly don't believe you. you won't admit it's dangerous. i think it's time you resign. >> today in the hearing before the health education labor and pensions committee, rand paul's attacks took a new turn as he accused dr. fauci of trying to silence other scientists. >> do you really think it's appropriate to use your $420,000 salary to attack scientists that disagree with you? >> the email you're referring to was email of dr. collins to me, if you look at the email -- >> that you responded to and hurried up and said i can do it. we have something in wired magazine. >> no, no, i think in usual fashion, senator, you are distorting everything about me. >> did you ever object to dr. collins' characterization of -- did

did he have knowledge ofac that and did in fact nih money go to the eco alliance that inll fact fundedthat you absolutely. and he lied again when i asked him about a gain of function. dr. fallacy is the cash cowun in the head cheerleader for viral gain of function goingct l back to at least 2014 when president obama's administration put a moratorium on it? dr. fauci, continue to fund biodata function in north carolina with dr. shi to build a protein spike that took a sars virus that allowed it to stick to human lung cells like glue and then in eighteen nineteen twenty eighteenan nineteen continue to fund the wound lab. the yaeko health system to develop the deep you're on cleavage site which allows that virus to dump its guts into the cells. so yes, yes and yes. lastio question isn't dr. fauci one of the highest paid government officials in the united states government kind of close to the president? right. he's making more money than the president according to forbes fauci dr. she's making some four hundred and twentyy thousand dollars a net worth of over ten million dollars. and agai

we are working with nih and the company. >> thank you. i yield back. >> dr. fauci it's disappointing free to suggest that people who dare to question you are responsible somehow and realized by taking me you are attacking the one member who has suffered attacks. as the low field and almost diagnosed 10 feet away from a staffer who was shot in the leg. over 160 rounds of semi i medical weapons fired at us ammunition so for you to suggest that somehow i arere people who dare to oppose you it is to the person they shot at us and almost killed steve scalise was a supporter of bernie sanders. the one thing you'll find if you look at the record is not one of those accused bernie sanders of being responsible for that. this is the kind of personally attacks that you have engaged in. you've engage in these packs with fellow scientists bring up only three scientists from harvard oxford in stanford that you chose to malign 50,000 scientists and medical doctors sign this petition. what they wanted the something that most americans think is pretty reasonable. it's a diffe

we have the questions to the nih and doctor fauci specifics they've not answered, there's no evidenceany of the e-mails have been changed in any way. these are the e-mails from the nih so i think the investigation is going to continue and i do think the funding of the eagle health alliance which is u.s. funding of some of the coronavirus investigations in the wuhan lab are tied in here in some way and whether that is to take the focus off of that, we don't know. the why is what we really have to investigate. kennedy: also, if they've not satisfactorily answered what was the information you gained in between the first conference call where doctor barry raised concerns saying they had great concerns about the lab leak, because the information you came to that made everybody do a complete 180? the threat of having funding both, was a promise of more funding? just don't say anything or publish anything and don't go along with it? somehow it's fueling the conspiracy theorists? it's not a theory if it actually happened, it's a fact. that's what they've not been able to do adequately to expl

nih controls the currency of academic medicine and i think they use that to say we will not study thisstion. my research team at johns hopkins did a study on natural immunity through private funding. week after philanthropists to fund and it is definitive as natural immunity. steve: expand on the last point people need to understand the cdc finally admits natural immunity is more powerful than the vaccination and preventing infection but they still have it published on how long it lasts. what did your study show? >> it's not that hard. interview people that were infected nearly two years ago and they have detectable circulating antibodies and it was comparable to nearly two years later as during the initial phase they acknowledged it was powerful in the fire on —- in the fine print not the messaging of their own study. >> it is a real scandal think goodness you are there with the voice of common sense and reason and science great to see you tonight. thank you so much. they lied about the pandemic and now it seems they are lying to us to take us to war again. we have the appalling to sh

the nih somehow was hiding them from us so he lied to the american public. i have to appreciate you talking about hillary clinton and deplorables. don't you feel like a deplorable when dr. fauci talks down to you? when he tells you, look, if you don't wear a mask, you're deplorable. if you don't want the vaccine, you're deplorable. if you don't agree with me you're deplorable. that's dr. fauci. we caught him in another lie yesterday. >> laura: the science dictates this and then months or maybe a year later we find the science, the supposed science is collapsing on itself, as it is with cloth masks and vaccines and transmission. when he appears on capitol hill as he did this week again, do you sense an arrogant man? do you sense a humble man? what's your reaction to his overall appearance? >> yeah, i think overbearing, very narcissistic, very full of himself. truly he believes that he is the science and that nobody can disagree with him. i felt so bad for dr. walensky making her rule saying that you can go back to work after five days and then dr. fauci hops

fauci and former nih director francis collins were stonewalling them. million went to 18 lab experiments to concoct and create viruses inside of the laboratory. i want to turn to the hot mic moment between senator marshall and dr. fauci. let's listen to this. >> i cannot find, our office cannot find them where would they be if they're public knowledge? >> it is totally accessible to you, if you want it. >> for the public, is it accessible? >> to the public. to the public. >> we look forward. >> you are totally incorrect. >> doing it. >> senator marshall, dr. fauci has answered you it is public information. he is happy to give it to you if you would have asked. senator moran. >> what a moron. jesus christ. elizabeth: okay. senator marshall is asking about dr. fauci's financial disclosures. calling him a moron, calling the senator a moron. what is your reaction to this. >> disgust me, completely unacceptable. look himself in the mirror, when he did that. certainly done more harm than the senator ever would. the senator is getting to the bottom to find out

it's right on the website of what nih funds. they take male monkeys, they put them in metal boxes, that's where they are forced to live. they subject them to hormones, so-called hormone treatment, and from that they are supposed to learn something about h.i.v. transmission. now, never mind that monkeys don't actually contract h.i.v. they don't actually develop aids. this is a study that could be done with human volunteers and we might actually find something out that would help human beings. >> tucker: so there is a lot of money, i mean, i think most, i know peta does not support this but people might say, if you can prove that it would save human lives and get a mass advance in scientific knowledge maybe but some of these animal experiments seem completely pointless inflicting cruelty on animals and they seem driven by research dollars. is that awn fair suspicion? >> that's just absolutely correct. $20 billion research dollars. in fact, we wrote to fauci last month and we pointed out that h.i.v. experiments on monkeys have kill

the nih is getting sued because they have been stonewalling. again financials are not out there.s relentless focus on getting rid of covid-19 relentless focus on vaccinations. ennis shut down the start of the pandemic looking into what you bring up the funding of super virus research notice out it naturally in nature but fauci nh doctors and scientists can get royalty on drugs and patents and things like vaccines. shouldn't fauci step up and dispel as rumors? it's possible these doctors are using nonprofits like echo help to create super viruses for the purpose of profiting from them. >> it is a big cover up. i thought it was a big cover from the beginning. for example there's a chinese researcher at the wuhan lab he immediately applied for patents on the cures for the coronavirus. how did he know this was going to be a pandemic unless they were creating a virus they thought had the potential of causing real problems around the world. i think it leaked out pretty think it was a mistake but what dhec are we involved funding eight science project that sounds like it comes out of a

virologists are the ones being handed millions of dollars in grants in the f if ih and the national -- nih is, you know, the entity that fauci is in charge of which hands out millions and millions of dollars including to two of the researchers who were the first to raise the flag that, you know, they were the ones looking at the sequencing. they were the ones looking at the genome of this virus saying there is no way, it is so improbable that it made the evolutionary leap. and also we are now so good and so fast at sequencing genomes that we can tell pretty quickly the type of animal that this thing leapt from. and then you can go out and you can find samples. they have swabbed so many tens of thousands of animals in wuhan, and they have found nothing. that was not the case with mers and sars-cov-1. they were able to pin it down in a matter of weeks. we're going on two years and conveniently everything's been scrubbed so we should say that, oh, yep, it's natural origin theory? i don't buy it for is finish for a second. >> i want to react to that a little bit. i still think it's possible, b

doctor fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect >> dr. fauci, i don't expect you today to admit that you improved of nih funding of ghana function research in wuhan. but your repeated denials have -- you won't admit that it is dangerous. for that lack of judgment, i think it is time the resign >> today, in the hearing before the health education committee ransom attacks took a new turn, as he accused doctor fauci of trying to silence other scientists. >> do you really think it is important to use your 420,000 dollar salary to attack scientists that disagree with you. >> the email that you are referring to was an email of dr. collins to me. if you look at the email. >> that he responded to, respond to and set hurry up, i can do. >> i think unusual fashion senator. you are distorting everything about me. >> did you ever object to dr. collins's character action? did you write to him, an esteemed scientist, it would be beneath me. he responded to him, that

where is all the darn money from the cdc and the nih. we gave them billions of dollars and they can't come up with a study? >> yeah. you had a great interview with him by the way. he made a really good point with that as well. i read some of what he said earlier. he said is the point of getting vaccinated or is it it immunity is it developing herd immunity it doesn't seem like it's immunity if you listen to government representatives. to your point, they didn't even study this in the initial faces facestayings when they were stug the effects of the vaccine. that was not include in the first round of analysis when they were evaluating this vaccine and effect on women's health. it's signature cafnt. we are telling a lot of young people to get this mandating it even though we have the cdc director says did doesn't stop transmission. maybe we need to change our investor back. i'm not anti-vax. i have had other vaccinations. love science. i have a lot of questions about this. of course it looks like we are getting towards herd immunity. talk

we've been digging into the nih documents from the very beginning. we were on it early on in 2020.e're finding how the nih did support dangerous supervirus research in the early 2000s, despite dr. fauci's heated denials. this problem we're finding more and more. it is deeper than realized. we're on the stick. outrage growing, 25 police officers now dead. a cop buying every day so far this year. the white house press secretary finally cites defunding the police as part of the problem. this story tonight, manhunt continues for the killer of an officer in houston. we'll bring you the very latest. bipartisan group of lawmakers, demanding speaker pelosi, congressman mccarthy schedule a vote banning members trading stocks while in office. we have more information that these conflicts are potentially worse than realized. top democrat lawmaker planning to hold hearings featureing transportation secretary pete buttigieg on railcars ransacked by thieves. border patrol cut 14 terrorist on the doj watch list last fiscal year. why did homeland security only disclose four? where is the white hou

raise the question about pandemic response in the fda i would add nih. i go to the core question of trust on the fact that since the beginning of covid-19 in the first person in america, washington state tested positive foror covid-19, unfortunately there is been mixed messages are different times spent one direction and on the other. the whole question round vaccines, vaccine mandates, masks, whether to wear one orto not. it's important their building trust, there being transparent and accountable to americans. they are being accountable to the taxpayers it is the taxpayers ultimately that are funding these agencies. as our hard earned tax payer dollars arere transparent. i've had too many examples in leading the energy of commerce committee where they have not been responsive to letters, they have not answered simple questions what was going on at the wuhan lab in u.s. taxpayer dollars that were being used to fund activities in the wuhan lab. why certain decisions were being made in conflicts with the world health organization. i would urge the leaders

, because nih, that is the people's health institute of this country, taxper-funded, had their scientists on this as well, provided enormous amount of resources. so if you can talk specifically while president biden was asked, you know, about providing the vaccines to the world, what he specifically could demand, for example, of moderna who got the money at the front and come and pfizer that was promised the money at the backend, in terms of sharing the recipe, the formula with factories and manufacturers around the world that are used to producing drugs but just simply don't have those recipes. >> the federal government has long had yet 30 to break these patents in times of emergency, which is clearly the case. he is not doing it. the world health organization has authority to do it as well. as public citizen reported, we're talking about $35 billion, which easily a third of apple corporation stock buyback last year. there would not be a vaccine without the national institutes of health research over the last 25 years. all the basic research is funded by the taxpayer and the taxpayer doe

collins, who was the head of the nih and dr.s the head of the naiad allergy and infectious disease of the nih. they wanted to create an allusion that there was a consensus of scientists in favor of lockdowns this was back in october of 2020 when he wrote this letter. this declaration calling for a different policy than a lockdown policy we have followed. they wanted to have people think that it was misinformation that there was anything other than lockdowns that scientists were supporting. and so when three harvard, stanford, oxford and nobel prize winners tens of thousands of doctors and epidemiologists signed on it was a political problem. they responded by smearing and propagandizing us and basically engaging the press in a campaign to marginalize us. >> rachel: yeah. that's exactly what they did. nicole, it's bad enough that they did that. but, if you are going to smear and suppress all this information. that the other side had, then, at least you better be right and it turns out he is not right and he is still trying to --