a clinical trial at johns hopkins funded by nih saved his life.continue with his treatment if he needs it again. thank you so much for being here. kyle, i saw chewbacca, your canine friend behind you, and we were very dog friendly. if he wants to say hello. but take us inside. what what what your thoughts are as this news that impacts you directly sort of comes in fast and furious. >> yeah, if i could. >> if you don't mind, i'm just. going to share a quick snippet of. >> my. >> background so people kind. of get a feel for and put a face to some of these cuts that are happening, because i know we're all seeing numbers. flying around and, you know, we're seeing things like nih thrown. >> around. >> and a lot of people may. >> not necessarily. >> know who they are and what. they do. >> so. >> i'm happy to be. >> here to share my story. >> and kind of put some of these things into a more human angle for people to understand. >> so, as you. >> can probably see from my background here, i'm a california kid at heart. >> and i joined the. >> navy way back

it's things like the nih, nih that you don't know about that you don't you don't think about on a daily basis. but somebody today is developing a cure to an illness you may have in ten years, and it's probably the best return on investment that you can get, because there's no private companies in between. these are universities, researchers and the government and your tax dollars at work. but this is part of the problem. they're cutting a whole bunch of things that some people find it hard to defend because they don't actually know what they do. usaid, another example of things that they work in the background, and we don't have serious problems because they work in the background. >> yeah, it's exactly right. and they're also on time scales that to your point, that the sort of return benefit over long periods of time, i mean, it should be said this, the national institutes of health is the largest single funder of medical research funding in the world. right? it's the envy of the entire world. it is the engine of american biomedical research and dominance. i mean, i know personally mul

nih and so on. yeah, natural it would be horrifying to me for that to happen because it's against everything i believe in the world of science and research and so i give a lot of interviews these days. i have a book coming out. it just came out and i talk to a lot of people and this inevitably is something that if they don't bring it, i bring it up because. we have to fight against the idea that because some science is corrupt, that all science is corrupt that because some scientists committed misconduct or fraud that we should just tear down these incredibly institutions of scientific and medical research that would be unbelievably misguided and harmful. i'm doing everything i can to convey that message to people. thank you very much. thank you. here's a guy i know. he was very important in helping me dig out some important data for the book. good to see you, charles. so when i my advance copy of the book didn't start a page one, i knew a bit about your experience with karen ash and i just went str

. >> nih employees. >> which now they don't like the cuts that are going to nih.hearing them say, oh, no, don't change those formulas. don't do those cuts. there's a big. >> nasa facility. >> down there. so because he was chairman of. >> appropriations. he put a lot of things down there. >> also, i. >> would explain to them 30%. >> of federal employees are veterans. >> don't we like veterans? >> and so they're now. >> hearing from all. >> these people and all around the country, and they're waking up to, oh, yeah, a lot of these people are our guys. and we're seeing all these people saying. wait a minute, i didn't know you meant me. well, of course this is. >> and the trauma that they. >> are bringing to these people. and i think a lot of your, you know, when you go to these town halls, they're saying it's traumatic now. okay, fine. you can ask people, tell us what you did last week. but it's going into a void. >> you know, those. >> 19 year old, those kids. >> are. not reading. >> the thousands and thousands of emails that are going to be sent in. it's meant to t

guests to trump's speech including "a child with a genetic spinal condition who is alive because of an nih program that fast recently cut". army vet close to retirement fired from veteran affairs, and a person relying on medicaid to survive. this comes as far left groups organize protest outside of republican correctional offices and gop town halls so what fireworks can we expect at trump's speech on tuesday. jason, i guess we call this a state of the union light? it's a joint address. obviously hasn't been president for very long. you've been to several of these. tell us about it. >> yeah, i've been to ten of them. i went to barack obama's eight and two with donald trump. it's a time of respect. if you don't show up, people like chris murphy and the democrat from connecticut saying i'm not going to show up because i can't stand the president. you're not doing your job and don't want to be part of the solution. all the democrats working to bring -- be cohesive, your job is one of the 135 people serving their country, state and districts, you're there not to just support the president, but

a lot of things usda's agricultural research service, national food and agriculture the desi nih equipmentlture that invest in land grants. a lotes of places with the site investment, the antitrust, the fair markets all these things, national security concerns, private security concerns only to be brought together and worked on. >> agree. thanks, andy and john. so we've given you a very quick peek under the hood of what is in our view a very troubled sector. as john says there's room for optimism but there's a lot of work to do here to promote competition and to help consumers pay lower prices for high quality, safe food, and reliable food supply chains. there's a lot of work to be done for producers in the united states. so there t is this cry for suppt from antitrust enforcement, from legislation at the federal level and thehe state level to inject more competition into our supply chain. we have time for some quick questions, if anybody would like to raise a hand. over here. thank you. >> had a question, i was curious in addition to of course what you guys were talking about.wh is in inc

musk and his chain saw wait until we hit the postal service, faa, the research institutions out of the nih in red communities that finance jobs in those communities. like this is not something, you can say that i've got a leaky roof in the house and 70% of americans want to stop waste, fraud and abuse but the fact is you want to rebuild not just burn the house down and that's what elon musk is doing. you've got the richest man in the world in your business, in your privacy, claiming there's waste, fraud and abuse but then admittedly cutting out whole chunks of government that help people in the social security administration, in the faa, all over the place so that's what the americans are reacting to it's not just democratic constituents. this is real life and that's why congress people are worried. howie: i'll come back to you on that. clay, 21 doge staffers resigned and said in a letter they aren't going to use their skills to compromise government systems, jeopardize american sensitive data or dismantle critical public services. >> i think elon musk should be cutting more than he is. i

the forest industry, the nih, that's not where those things are impacted.and so it's been a little bit of a sleight of hand that i think its impacting some of the poll numbers and perception you're talking. >> and just look at the map here about where this is impacting the federal workforce by house district. it's really across the board. there are lots of districts, red districts, blue districts in which people there are federal employees who have been impacted. and just yesterday, elon musk doge inspired effort, there was another email that went out to roughly 2 million federal employees saying, justify your work. you're going to be asked to do this on a weekly basis. that's something that's going to continue to come up. and in talking to republican members, too, they're very clear that a lot of them are starting to feel the heat back home. and they wanted message this a bit differently. give me a sense on your concerns right now. >> to be a little bit more compassionate. the way we message this, it matters to people, and i want to make sure that we don't

i mean, you've got cuts at nih, nsf, people being fired across the board there, and now you've got thisnow, noaa, you know, make sure that, you know, our weather is accurate and you know, this this is information that farmers and fishermen and airlines rely on. and even, you know, warning people about tornadoes and hurricanes. we need really good, accurate data. and noah provides it. and, you know, i think what they want to do is privatize weather information. so, you know, talk about, you know, this is supposed to lower costs. think about having to pay for weather information moving forward. i mean, i think that's going to raise costs across the board. but, you know, this is just one example of an unnecessary attack on science that's going to make us less competitive in the global stage. >> virginia democratic congressman soyuz subramanian, thank you so much for your candor and for talking with us. appreciate that. thank you. coming up next, predictions for president trump's big address on capitol hill and some new poll capitol hill and some new poll [monologue] i got somebody for that

. >> nih researcher, because you want to bring your knowledge. >> your scientific inquiry, to the. >>ying to save lives. >> into the future, you don't want to have your governor tell you. to get. on linkedin. if you are an irs worker who. >> is. >> gearing up for a busy tax. >> season, you. >> do not want your governor saying go to. indeed, if you are a person, many of them veterans themselves who work the suicide prevention lines or who work in in. at the va. supporting their. >> fellow veterans. >> you do not want your governor. >> saying, no. >> no, it'll be fine. that mission. driven job that you've believed in, that you've spent day in and day out devoting yourself to. you'll be fine. >> you'll find. >> something else. it is absolutely out of step, not just with. >> the economy. >> of virginia, not just. >> with. >> our our. >> needs on the ground. >> but it's out of step with the fact that the more than 145,000 virginians who devote. >> themselves to public service. >> do it. >> out of mission. >> they do it because they believe in the service. >> that. >> they are rendering to

an event raising the concerns about medicaid cuts, uh, raising the concerns about, you know, cuts to nihealth care spending. i went to talk to community of people with disabilities that are worried about, you know, those. >> types of a town hall. we've talked in the past about talking to people one on one. and i'm. >> glad to see that the american people are giving an earful to some of my republican colleagues that. >> republicans are saying those people are just sort of organized protest. >> well, yeah, i mean, look, they said the same thing in 2017 when there were all these protests against their efforts to gut the affordable care act. but that works. that matters. it's important for people to see constituents standing up to their elected leaders, and also trying to make sure we can channel that energy. not only did i, you know, do events about medicaid cuts, but i also helped. moderate a forum like a town hall forum for gubernatorial candidates in new jersey. we have an election coming up in new jersey. >> that what resonates, because i feel like the complete and total lack of sympath

. >> cut off nih funding to. medical systems, think about all the universities. around the country.of alabama is the largest employer in the state, right? rochester employs 40,000 people. if suddenly jobs are slashed, programs are cut. what's going to happen to all of those economies around the country? >> before i answer that, can i just point out people. >> are. >> going to people are going to die first. >> that's the first. >> and i think the most important thing with some of these. programs that have been cut off, especially when it comes to usaid and the way that the government has been helping keep people alive all over the world, not to mention the soft. >> power aspects. >> of this which we also give up. and you're absolutely right, stephanie. governments do things for reasons that are not the same as why businesses do things. the reason why government does things is because mostly business doesn't want to do it, or can't do it in a way that provides the public with the equity or equitable treatment that it demands. >> one example drug. >> companies don't. >> do all the. >>

it was involved with nih primarily. state department had this, looking around and being inquisitive. another area we are interested in and have sent letters and will probably resend letters and mixer subpoenas -- and maybe subpoenas as necessary is the cisa. no more government officials showing up at publications and saying take this down. i think that was offensive to the first amendment. i wrote a lot about it the twitter files when elon musk had access to the private half. everybody in the twitter files was talking to somebody in the government. i hope you will assign somebody to look at that, because if you have people in government discussing, conspiring, colluding to takedown politically protected speech such as cloth masks don't work, which i don't think they do and it's a disservice to tell people something works when it doesn't. even if you disagree, it is my opinion. it is a politically protected statement. we shouldn't have the government on the other side. i hope you will look at the other side of the twitte

they cut nih and cdc staff. some high risk projects you are talking about, staff that is integral to implementing a lot of your recommendations were fired. even the website i was just talking about, this wall of receipts, they messed that up too. they said they cut about $8 billion at ice, but it was $8 million. that's setting aside the fact that they gave accidentally perhaps self-proclaimed racists read and write access to critical treasury data that includes almost every american's personal information. it does not seem like this is very good. if they are trying to cut the deficit and get rid of waste, fraud and abuse, they are doing a really bad job. thank you for my time. >> thank you. it is good to see you again. i will be sad after you leave. you had mentioned in the previous conversation he debt to gdp ratio at nearly 100%. buttock learn -- but according to the debt clock, $36 trillion with gdp of $29.6 trillion, we are actually at 123%. >> well, i am counting just debt held by the public. the 36 include