and sanitation conditions in rural areas across america , interviewed by grist senior editor nikhil swaminathan . "after words" is an interview program with relevant hosts interviewing top nonfiction authors. all "after words"programs are available as podcasts . >> catherine flowers. first thing i'd like to say is congratulations on your book out recently. and -- >> thank you it's an amazing accomplishment and it came out around the same time as thisbook which we will discuss today . i'm just curious. you've been working in lowndes county now for 20 years or so and what made now the right time for this book and what made you want to write it? >> it's very interesting, i've always wanted to write a book. those that have known me for a long time know that i've been talking aboutwriting since i was in high school . but this book, it just felt right for me to do it. i started writing it last year and had no idea of the events that were going to happen in 2020. but i felt like 20/20 was the year this book needed to be out there and i had no idea that the historical gods would be in my favor in terms