this is something that nobody's going to disclose ever do the athletes know about it i know that nikitin i was here at least another denting call was here i was talking about the sochi case the trial in geneva where you had a lot of experts witnesses present in the presence of the athletes in the presence of the lawyers of the athletes of course they could ask questions to for example dr roche and go. professor mclaren and it was for the first time possible that all parties could ask questions to these people really so they were there not here in geneva in geneva yes was there some kind of video conference with mr mcclaren and mr raja exactly yes you don't have the right to disclose any of these no no and i was even myself not present throughout the hearing in the in the room but in the case of young chang trial did it come to the point when the i.o.c. had to provide something to the court not the geneva case but here for this case here in the panel only review the question of the application of the law of the rules of the i.o.c. it's reviewed only the process whether it was fair whether