[laughter] tavis: the book from nikki giovanni is called "chasing utopia: a hybrid."ys a delight to be in conversation with you, nikki giovanni. >> [laughs] thanks, tavis. tavis: good to have you on. that's our show for tonight. thanks for watching, and as always, keep the faith. ♪ >> for more information on today's show, visit tavis smiley at pbs.org. i am tavis smiley. join us next time for a conversation with mary make donald. that is next time. i will see you then. ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ >> be more. pbs. >> be more. pbs. ♪ pbs. ♪ (♪ theme music ) (♪) matt elmore: welcome to imagemakers a weekly showcase featuring the best short films from around the world. stay tuned and enjoy the filmmakers of tomorrow today on imagemakers. imagemakers is made possible in part by a grant from: celebrating the vitality and power of the moving image. and by the: (shaking a paint can) (children playing)

join me next time for a conversation with acclaimed poet nikki giovanni on her latest column "chasinga hybrid." that is next time, we will see you then. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> be more. >> be more. pbs. announcer: (♪) matt elmore: welcome to imagemakers a weekly showcase featuring the best short films from around the world. stay tuned and enjoy the filmmakers of tomorrow today on imagemakers. imagemakers is made possible in part by a grant from: celebrating the vitality and power of the moving image. and by the: (♪ xylophone playing ) (♪) (♪ upbeat music ) (♪) (church bells)