and nikki grimes joins me now. thank you so much for being here. it's an honor. center. $3 million have been raised for it. what will it do? >> well, it would allow them to mobilize people on the ground. they'll be able to enact with other organizations involved in this work. because while there are so many book bans coming out of florida, the truth of the matter is, the majority are opposed to these bans. and so by being in the lion's den, as it were, pen will have an opportunity to help mobilize those on the ground who aren't aware of exactly how to go about fighting these bans. >> let me just put up a map. this is sort of where school book bans have happened by state, and of course, the darkest red is where the most book bans have >> it has been a red state phenomenon. but what have you made of the blue state pushback? because you are seeing states like illinois, new jersey, california, pushing back. are we moving to two americas when it comes to children's right to read, just as we are moving to two americas when it comes over women's rights over their own bo